It's surprising to me they don't compare Teslas to other EV cars. Comparing to "average used car" which includes ICE, seems like apples to oranges.
Hank Green [1] is of the opinion that used EVs are underpriced at the moment, because of exaggerated fears concerning minor decreases in range, that don't matter enough in practice. I wonder if the stats presented are a manifestation of that, or a Tesla-specific backlash.
Mentally people still map EV batteries to the batteries used in power tools and phones. None of which last over 5 years in a usable state.
EV batteries have statistical historical data proving they easily last 10-15 years before falling to even 80% of maximum - and these are the 10-15 year old batteries, current ones are even better.
There are also the newer “fast charge” batteries coming like the CATL Shenxing (Gen 2) and CATL Shenxing PLUS that will make current batteries look worse in when they hit the market shortly
Has anybody actually been finding good deals on used Tesla's? Every time I see one that looks like a decent price, it has extremely high miles or serious issues.
Anytime I see one with low miles and in good condition, it is approaching the price of a new one.
Ah the good old junk-pricing model, advertise a price which has no relation to what the customer actually will pay, completely removing the customer's ability to compare prices across venues.
I agree with your sentiment. I've occasionally browsed them, and like you said, while many are cheap, you get what you pay for more so than with other models (higher mileage, worse condition). I usually end up finding that other makes and models are a better value.
I think people are missing the forest for the trees when commenting on this one. It's not EVs vs ICE, it's Tesla vs everything else.
Tesla has supply chain issues. They have always had supply chain issues. Some people have to beg Musk on social media for attention to get their cars repaired after months and months of waiting.
No one wants to buy a used EV with existing or potential upcoming maintenance issues that may cause it to be unusable for a significant period of time.
My understanding is that the battery in a Tesla is so fragile that even in the most minor of accidents, the insurance company "totals" the car, at least here in Indiana.
It's amazing they have any resale value at all. A totalled Tesla should have a large negative value because of the hazardous waste aspect of the battery.[1]
Edit/Append: You would think that given the cost of the lithium other metals in a battery, 100% recycling would be an actuality, instead of just a marketing claim.
Now take what you said and replace "tesla" with "electric car" and you have one of the correct arguments against subsidizing electric so heavily or mandating it.
ICE used cars are often in relative good working condition.
EV used cars are basically dead batteries. It makes a lot of sense to see used EVs price plummet. The index being used to make this comparison doesn't seem to disclose the car category, so it's hard to draw any conclusions.
If tesla car specifically drops in value, compared to other electric car brands for similar vintage/model vehicles, then you can draw a conclusion. Otherwise, it'd be merely confirmation bias.
Don’t ICE cars require a lot more maintenance per mile than EVs?
I own a Toyota 4Runner which is known for holding its value long term and is super reliable… but I do have to change fluids regularly, for example. Engine oil, transfer case fluid, etc.
Regenerative braking is supposed to be nicer to the actual brakes, too, even though an EV with the same capacity is generally heavier.
My timing belt (chain), clutch, and gearbox last 130k+ miles. Thats the life of some EV batteries. Coilpacks cost $100. You are not wrong, but I have not had any major repair on any of my cars under 50k miles. Maintenance does exist but it doesn’t wildly drive up the cost per mile
There is also suspension, a/c, wipers, and interior electronics.
The difference between ice and EV stops after the drivetrain and most ice drivetrains are rather reliable these days. My 10 year old ice sedan costs about 0.18/mi. I would be interested to know what a comparable EV would cost, considering half of my cost is basically gasoline
Update: it seems EVs cost under 0.10/mi with figures coming in between 0.03 and 0.08. This doesn’t explain if this is all costs (including things like washer fluid, regular maintenance etc) or estimated costs+charging. My costs were tracked over a 6 year span
> My timing belt (chain), clutch, and gearbox last 130k+ miles. Thats the life of some EV batteries.
If that's the life of your battery, you get it replaced under warranty. Since no supplier wants to have to replace the bulk of batteries under warranty that seems to just be false in Tesla's case at least.
Your cost per mile including gas really depends on where you live. Because gas prices vary wildly.
Most premium ice cars aren't cheap to maintain unless you're doing a lot yourself
Who provides a warranty over 130k miles on the battery! Cost per mile for gas was from $2.15 (yay covid) up to $4.21, average gas price paid over the life of the car is at $3.20. 98% of my fillups was 93 octane gas
Besides that the thread us about Tesla, would you consider any of those premium cars?
Kia and Toyota? Ford and GM I could see
But also, this is part of how tesla is ahead still on other manufacturers. Knowing their product and being able to provide a better warranty speaks to their own confidence in it
You can look at market positioning, or you can look at the experiments…
A million mile Tundra with 117 dealership visits over 10 years:
In maintaining his truck to the extraordinary million-mile mark, Sheppard has logged 117 dealership service visits over nine years, ranging from timing belt replacements, oil changes, and the manufacturer’s regularly scheduled check-ups.
Tesla Model S with 1.2 million:
However, this Model S is currently on its fourth battery pack. Four batteries at 1.2 million miles mean that the average pack lasted some 300,000 and counting, which is actually a strong showing in our opinion.
It’d be interesting to try to get bounds on the costs. It seems like the Tesla special of mishandled repairs (i.e. not understanding motor failure) is an real and persistent factor.
I'm not certain this is valuable. While it's great to see how a car can last that long you need to be driving a LOT to ever get near that mark. That's professional driver levels.
No consumer car should be built to achieve that. If they can, great, but you might be over engineering a lot to make that happen as a rule
Kia/Hyundai provides a 10 year/100k mileage warranty. Double that of Tesla. I wonder if Tesla knows their premium cars will fall apart long before their batteries do?
This was a great thought experiment though! Let’s do it again sometime?
Note that the battery warranties aren't just for total failure, most are for at least 70% of original capacity at say 8/10 years or 100k (and are generally increasing on newer models). BYD offer 125K miles on their blade battery for example.
Coincidentally, studies have shown that MPG on ICE engines can drop as much as 40% after 10 years.
You can also buy 3rd party battery warranties. As with any insurance product the price would be lower if everyone bought in. Would probably be a good subsidy for nations trying to encourage EV adoption.
> > Don’t ICE cars require a lot more maintenance per mile than EVs?
> Yes, and this to me feels like one of the least understood things about EVs.
Well my anecdote is different. We're on our third EV over 11 years, so have a bit of experience.
Each one of those 3 EVs has spent at least 10x more days at the dealer than my 15 year old Mazda (ICE) minivan (which has spent exactly one afternoon at the dealer).
Also they are mechanical things under pretty stressful conditions. So you need to activate them properly from time to time to have parts move as freely as they should.
> And depending how you drive you might not use friction brakes at all.
I’ve been told that should remember to use your friction brakes once in a while, to keep them in shape. Is this still true with cars that have effective engine brakes?
It is still true and it is a big deal on EVs which are using calipers instead of drums for braking; i.e. Tesla. Problem is that their brake calipers would rust (due to lack of usage) and then seize on major braking and would not disengage anymore.
Use it or lose it kind of situation with brakes on EVs
Modern batteries can last a long while though. If you take care of it and mostly keep it between 25-75% and don't supercharge it too often. There are Teslas with more than 300K miles on the original battery.
I have a model 3 with ~80K kilometers and the battery is as good as new. 2018 model. For someone that drives 10-15K km a year there's maybe 30 years more driving on this battery (400K km).
My previous ICE car had two head gasket replacements in the 10 years I owned it. I also had to replace the entire engine. Oil changes. Brake pads/discs, CV joints... So far the EV is way ahead and based on the current battery degradation should remain ahead.
A good ICE vehicle without a CVT can last a long time.
Regenerative braking means people don't need brake maintenance as often, but also have to replace tires more frequently (especially lazy people that don't rotate the tires regularly.)
Personally, I wouldn't buy a North American ICE model from the past 17 years. Go to a site like Edmunds and sort by worst reviews first, and run if you see electrical or drivetrain complaints. You will have to go back decades to find a reasonable quality domestic ICE model. =3
I'm interested to know why doing regen instead of braking would mean you have to replace the tires more often? Seeing as the tires are the only thing in contact with the road I would have thought it wouldn't make any difference what was slowing the wheels to create more friction - brakes or the engine. Can you elaborate?
I wouldn't know for sure, but suspect the relatively higher mass of an EV puts more wear on the tires during braking and acceleration. You certainly feel when the regenerative mode kicks on in a smaller vehicle.
Someone will have to pester a physicist at some point for a better answer.
That's not true at all. Many reliable models from US manufacturers over the past 17 years. Just do some basic research. Likewise, there are plenty of awful models from otherwise reliable manufacturers (Toyota oil burning engines, Hyundai grenading Theta engines).
That said most of the reliable models are passed over. People assume that a recent Chevy Malibu or Buick Regal is an unreliable car, but some of those sorts of cars can hit 200k with ease.
Indeed, and we purchased Honda and Toyota models for in town. I like the silly look of the Rivian, but wanted to hold off a year to see what others say about its mechanical equity.
Be honest, Ford and Dodge have been on a downward slope for decades. =3
In general yes but Tesla is a pretty low volume closed ecosystem with poor parts availability. So when you have a problem it’s going to be a huge pain in the a.
Engineering Explained youtuber made recently a video selling his Tesla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLrDaV6nkE), and all his mantainance costs for 60k miles are quite low: about $600, taking out damage from hitting a pothole hard.
The gas savings vs electricity consumed were huge, about $10k
When buying an ev, knowing you can charge at home should be part of your decision.
Also, I've never seen 60 cents a kWh at a supercharger in California. 50 cents, plenty of times. But that's the most I've seen. Maybe that's some specific part of LA or something.
Based on how PG&E is pricing things I suspect prices are only going sharply upwards from here. They pretty much hold the state hostage at this point. “Give us more money or we can’t guarantee that we wont accidentally burn down rural towns in the Sierra foothills.”
Never owned a Tesla, but the amount of horror stories involved with Tesla, its often a hard battle to get warranty, especially around the battery when it involves a second hand vehicle. Even first owner vehicles are often a mixed experience.
I assumed you never opened the link you point to, as its literally in the first line very clearly "Your new Tesla" (as in, not a second hand vehicle). Ooooo, fun, look a bit lower in the actual model info. Your vehicle need to return to the first registered area to gain warranty for a resell. Here in Europe we see often cars being sold that come from Spain or other area's, in Germany. By that contract condition, it need to go back to Spain for a battery fix. lol
Tesla Vehicle warranty is at discretion of Tesla bla bla ... Battery max 8 years, or 240.000km, ... Lots of other exceptions to that warranty.
And if you can apply the warranty, your also not getting a new battery, but a refurb based upon the whole description.
Fyi: Lithium batteries drop in capacity faster and faster when they go past the 80% mark. But legally, Tesla can shove anything in there. A 100% battery, a 80% battery, ... you get the point.
With a ICE engine, even on rental cars, you tend to get the same millage out of them, as a new one. Most issues are often more on the clutch or turbo, both relative cheap repairs compared to a battery pack.
People have been warned years ago, that second hand market for EV cars is going to be a issue because of the battery. Now we are seeing the effect on the pricing.
Hmmm. The Cybertruck has only been on sale since 2023, so presumably it shouldn't be impacted by this issue, but it seems like it still is (moreso than other used cars at least.) Being the most distinctive Tesla car there is, I expect a lot of that does come down to damage to the brand...
I don't think we should consider the Cybertruck alongside the other Tesla vehicles in this particular comparison. Brand aside, it's a low quality vehicle that gets outclassed by both EV and ICE trucks at half (or less, depending on configuration) of its MSRP - all of which have a better reliability track record.
Batteries are rarely dead, they just loose capacity. (And quite slowly at that!!) Resale goes down if you decide there's not enough capacity left and want to sell, but the car is still fine. Eventually, yes, someone might opt to battery swap: for a Tesla that's currently ~$10-20k depending. But in another 10 years? It's quite likely battery prices will have continued to decline, & costs will be less.
I drove 65,000 miles in my ICE car over a period of ~16 years. If the Mustang has 92% left after 250,000 miles driven, I suspect a second hand EV would provably work for me.
I feel like there's a lot of people who'd be totally fine with an only 240 mile (80%) range car instead of a 300 mile (100%) range car. There's probably plenty of people fine with a 150 mile range car too (50%)!!
We don't need every car to be good at long road trips. Yes, some people will want to either replace the battery or get a newer car. But I think, right now, there's wayyy too much fear over battery longjevity, and that folks are way off base about how many miles a pack is good for.
And ideally, the expected battery life should be a competitive factor in car buying: Teslas seem to be down almost 2x as much after 250k miles (85% rather than 92%). Different batteries will have different battery lifecycles, and ideally, consumers can help nudge the car makers into caring more, but there needs to be information available for generate that demand-pressure. And also crucial: without battery lifecycle information, FUD is going to dissuade a lot of would-be buyers!
And if it’s the very first gen of the Leaf, then, as far as I know, they don’t have thermal management for the batteries. So it greatly stresses them both for discharge and charge and that manifests as reduced capacity.
Lithium cells are happy when they are around 20-25 degrees Celsius (about 75F?) but they don’t enjoy when it’s hot or cold. Likewise, they don’t enjoy full charges and discharges which I’d guess more probable in a smaller range car.
All in all, the first gen Leaf might not be a good benchmark for a more modern EV. Many things should be better now.
I have the same attitude. While I don't keep them as long, I've rarely ever had a car that was less than 20 years old. And why not? Keeping stuff that works around instead of throwing it away is good, it's cheap, there is long-term data available on what works / didn't work / the spare part situation, fuel economy and safety mostly depend on what models you chose and compare. Working on old stuff is often also easier (no matter if you do it yourself or pay someone else). Also: Switches, stalks, locks that also work without batteries, no huge displays, no ride-by-wire - nice! ;)
I'd like to quibble with the word "always" and "least" there. If you passed your test and got your first car at 18 and you're younger than 68 then you've only had time for one 25 year old car, plus your current car.
I've gone through quite a lot of cars, but only one of them because it was broken and not worth fixing. The others were due to circumstances changing, like moving country, or having a larger family.
> I always keep my ICE cars for at least 25 years.
That's not what service life means. It's a design requirement that is used to drive probabilistic models that determine longevity targets for individual components, and also reflects a manufacturer's commitment to support a specific model.
Yes, your car is expected to still run after 12 years. Some cars also run after doing 200k miles.
> It is crazy to me that people are getting rid of them after only 12 years.
Some people replace cars way earlier than that, either because maintenance becomes too expensive due to severe use (see Uber drivers) or because they simply feel like it. There's a reason where car leasing is a successful business.
That works if you have the skills, tools, and willingness to do a lot of work yourself. For most people, a major repair on a 10+ year old car (engine, transmission, etc) means sinking more money into a car than its blue book value.
This may be true under certain conditions but there are many cars around that are much older than 10 years and have never needed major surgery along the lines of an engine replacement. It's not unreasonable to expect a car and its engine to run for the 25 years or more mentioned by the person you were replying to. Maintenance and routine repairs can be had for reasonable prices if you find yourself a good, fair mechanic and drive a car that's not too rare and has an OK spare part situation.
I live in Canada, have a 15 year old Hyundai Elantra that sees -40 degrees every winter, I ski 50+ days per year so it sees a ton of snowy roads, and the car has had exactly zero mechanical issues. I've only replaced brake pads, rotors just this year, and tires.
The top 3 things about bad weather places is water / moisture, dirt / sand and road salt. That causes extended wear and body damage over time which leads to cars not lasting as long as a population in the area. It's not the cold and if you keep it dry, clean, sealed and well maintained then you can avoid the issue, it's just a lot of work and nobody does it.
> You're reading that wrong. The average age of a licensed car is 12 years. So that means the average age of disposal is 24 years.
I'm repeating verbatim claims from car forums made by people claiming to be automotive engineers who worked for major car manufacturers.
I am talking about claims like this:
> I spent 25 years as an engineer at Rover Group and now work for it's evolved equivalent. Overall, vehicles are designed for a lifetime of 12 years or 120,000 miles and engineering standards are intended to reflect this. this is pretty much standard across the industry.
You seem to be confused. I'm talking about planned service life, whereas you're talking about "misreading reports" that cite car age statistics. Please understand they are not the same thing.
So after 200,000 miles or 10 years, you're on average expecting 70% of the nominal battery capacity. My car is at 150k miles, 8 years, and 85% capacity. You can expect more than 300,000 miles on the odometer before the battery dips below 66%.
And mind you, even then the car can work just fine if you don't _need_ range.
True, a local club has an Electric 1913 Detroit that ran for 78 years on the same set of Edison cells. These cells were replaced due to leakage rather than capacity loss by the club re-builders a few decades back. Think about the total distance traveled compared to a modern EV. YMMV was never so true.
The battery is the car for most EV, and given most manufacturers adversarial relationship with external repair shops it is effectively e-waste in 8 to 14 years. =3
They are not dead, EV batteries actually last a very long time. Over here in europe there is actually a company that will repair your battery and Tesla cars are great for that.
Apart from the fact that electric vehicle technology is evolving rapidly, making older models significantly inferior to newer ones, the other significant concern is the concentrated risk associated with used batteries.
While various issues can arise in a used Camry, none of these individually can match the cost of battery replacement. While I can manage a few thousand-dollar service bills, I certainly cannot afford a twenty thousand-dollar bill for a used car.
This seems to happen with other types of electronics, too. I think many avoid used laptops and phones partly due to the expectation that the overall condition won't be good.
You're right. Amazon UK has a great selection of used ThinkPads with worn out batteries. Fine if you have no plan to use it away from mains power. If something has a battery, I would rather buy new.
Not sure if you're being intentionally dishonest. It makes no sense for ICE cars to be in good working condition and EVs to have dead batteries. If anything I'd be much more worried about an engine/transmission dying in an ICE car because you need to know how the car was driven and maintained by the previous owner(s).
> If anything I'd be much more worried about an engine/transmission dying in an ICE car because you need to know how the car was driven and maintained by the previous owner(s).
ICE car dies after X miles are driven.
EV car dies after X years have elapsed, regardless of mileage.
Mechanics have been doing that for about 100 years now. It’s not complicated to judge the “health” of an engine. Compression ratio, exhaust composition, even just the sound of it to a trained ear.
While the cost of replacing a battery in an EV is high, it’s not very different than an engine and transmission.
Compression ratio basically just measures the state of the valves and the piston rings. There are many other parts that can wear out. I've owned many ICE vehicles, cars and motorcycles- you're taking some risk when you buy a used one. If it's an owner that kept meticulous service records, and they're all according to the manufacturer recommendations, and the car is inspected by a good mechanic, then it's likely to be ok. But even then you just never know, they fail on some curve. Lots of aluminum engines end up developing some warpage and head gasket issues. Transmissions aren't as easy to check, you can look at the fluid but if it's been recently replaced that won't tell you much. You can analyze engine oil but nobody does that when purchasing a vehicle (and you don't know when the oil has been replaced).
Yes, and the same is true for the EV. Many, many things to go wrong; electronics are prone to abuse and wear and tear, too. I’d love to see Tesla’s data on “out of warranty” treatment of their cars.
> ICE used cars are often in relative good working condition.
Yes! ICE cars have 10,000 moving parts, and also chambers for burning stuff, lots of oil and residual burnt stuff. ICE cars work exactly like the human body, exercise helps live longer. EV cars have nearly no moving parts, they get obese and die sooner.
I wonder what is the reliability of a used Tesla. Is only the battery failing after some time? I heard that any hit to the battery may make it burn in some time later which is a huge issue, but don't all EV have battery in the chassis?
I can't imagine people not buying used car because the owner of the company said something. Especially if the car is top high innovation in EV
I'm a big fan of Tesla since the first time I've seen it during my trip to London. There were two model S standing next to each other. the car and the chassis. It's been said that the chassis (with the battery and motors) is enough for this car to ride turn and brake. That's when I fell in love with it.
I really have trouble cancelling something just because some guy is doing some things. There were gazillion of people working on it and I have feeling that I would cancel them too, but they are innocent really
Tesla according to them is a great used car to buy. Not all models however.
> Based on our experience and that of our colleagues’ labs at 15-20 different locations worldwide, we have concluded that the battery is the last concern on the list during the first 10 years of an EV’s life, with some vehicles covering a large number of miles with the original battery system. The most common failures within 10 years of using an EV are: 1. Electric motors, 2. OBC chargers, 3. DCDC/inverters, and only in fourth place, batteries.
Thank you. Im thinking of buying this car primarily because of its exceptionally low price but the cost of repair scares me. I wonder if the engines are repairable or as it becomes custom nowadays in all the cars - only replaceable.
Spare parts are a problem, especially on older cars which were constantly updated (no locked hardware design). This has been great feature for first buyers, but disaster for everyone else after them.
I think that perspective mostly exists amongst the chronically online. I don’t see it much in the real world.
All EVs depreciate quickly, Tesla isn’t unique in this regard.
The reason is simply that the market is currently higher income earning early adopters. That customer base is willing to pay the premium for the newest model, and upgrades quickly when newer models come out.
This results in a large of supply of 3 year old vehicles, but not much demand.
In time we’ll see used EVs depreciate at rates more similar to ICE vehicles, as mainstream buyers, who view EVs as a car rather than a tech product, enter the market.
> The reason is simply that the market is currently higher income earning early adopters.
I'm not sure this has a basis in reality. There is no supporting evidence for it.
On the contrary, there is evidence that both Musk's favorability rating[1] and Tesla's brand reputation[2][3] have nosedived over the last few years and especially after Jan 2025.
If you want to claim an income-value-market cause, you'll have to provide more compelling evidence.
Maybe you missed it, but there was a whole period in the Spring when people were in the real world protesting in front of actual Tesla dealerships. These were people like my parents, who don't even have social media, yet they were dragging themselves and their protest signs to the local Tesla dealerships every weekend. People got so mad they were setting Teslas on fire! When people are so pissed they're firebombing dealerships, you can't pretend it's just online murmurings.
It isn't. I'm from Germany, and Musk doing the Nazi salute has widely made the rounds. Lots of people are appalled, so are people in other parts of the EU, and here are some actually numbers on that:
I have seen the original video. However charitably I tried to look at it, it looked very much like a nazi salute to me. I watched Herr Hitler doing his salute for comparison, it looked eerily similar to me.
I've seen that video. I've also watched his complete disregard for other people (DOGE, anyone), seen his ideas of "free speech", witnessed Mechahitler, and Twitter being turned into the fascist club house.
That fucking salute was one thing. He knows what he's doing or trying to do. Many people in Europe are appalled by what they see. So they stopped buying his shit. Fair game, this being goddamn free market capitalism and all.
> I can't imagine people not buying used car because the owner of the company said something
That's a nice way of trivialising what Musk has been doing. It's not just what he says, but his Nazi salutes (also his destruction of the U.S. government) and his general racism and politics.
Do you remember the Ratner's Jewellery collapse? That was people completely boycotting Ratner's due to the owner/CEO, Gerald Ratner comparing his company's products to the quality of a prawn sandwich.
My understanding is that the batteries are only good for so long (around 7 years or so) and then, they cost more to replace than the car is worth. Have to wonder if this is going to be a universal issue?
The battery will probably need replacing after 250,000 miles or so. So yes, the battery will cost more to replace than the rest of the car, but that's because the rest of any car that's traveled 250,000 miles is no more than scrap value.
And yet it is still impossible to find cheap used model 3 for a family member in Germany. Everybody’s telling about massive price drops, but I haven’t seen one for months.
What would you consider to be a cheap enough Tesla Model 3?
A quick search on mobile.de shows that a standard range Tesla Model 3 that is about 3 years old and has a mileage of ~100k km costs ~25k euros. A similar Tesla Model Y costs ~30k euros. Those are final prices for end customer with VAT.
> It is just insane how much bad press Tesla gets compared to other car makers.
Most of the other car makers weren't promising FSD next year for decades, or have their CEO giving the Roman Salute at MAGA rallies, or regularly having ketamine-fueled affluenza breakdowns on Twitter. Also, their ticker is a truly bizarre memestock.
There's easy targets, and there's painting one on your own back.
It’s almost as if there’s things that tip the bias against Tesla!
I for one can’t think of A SINGLE reason why anyone or any news outlet could criticize a nicer, more normal, grounded, unproblematic, controversial, or completely good and undeserving company than Tesla.
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There’s so much to like about EVs, and there’s no denying Tesla’s outsized role in bringing practical EVs to market, and kickstarting competition, which is mostly good, despite the tactics and controversy.
Trying to leave politics out of it, it’s also undeniable that Elon, in and out of his CEO role at Tesla, has done some really harmful, shitty, trust-destroying things. I think everyone can agree that reality cannot have possibly matched the hyperbole and marketing claims. The overpromising, and therefore untruths, good faith or no, alone are enough for me.
The dude’s fingerprints, and everything good and bad (mostly bad for some time now IMO) that come along with it, are all over Tesla.
Hank Green [1] is of the opinion that used EVs are underpriced at the moment, because of exaggerated fears concerning minor decreases in range, that don't matter enough in practice. I wonder if the stats presented are a manifestation of that, or a Tesla-specific backlash.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5KF2IhUtY