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If an Inverter is Switching at 4kHz why is the Bearing Current in the Mhz range? An impact (IGBT Current Switching) creates a Ring Down (Yellow) and the resultant FFT (Red) is in the Mhz range. The resonant peak of these Bearing Currents depend on cable characteristics and this is why Grounding, Cable Capacitance is so important. That Impact in current hits the Motor Winding and reflects, often doubling voltage which decays Motor Insulation. (Some Motors are Inverter Duty with better Insulation). EMF Cores attenuate above 10kHz attenuating the Ring Down protecting the Motor. The Root Cause is this Ringing, so fixing grounding issues over Brushes or Insulated Bearings makes sense.

  • The Source of Bearing Currents is the Switching of the Inverter that creates a Ring Down.  The cable characteristic determines the Peak Frequency. 
The Root Cause is this Impacting which is reduced by proper grounding NOT Insulated Bearings or Brushes. 
EMF Cores dampen the ring down protecting the Motor, no Brush can do this.
Damian Biricevski

CMO & Co-founder at Personizely | We've helped 2,500+ brands generate over $300M in attributable revenue

1mo

Makes total sense... fixing the resonance at the source beats band-aid solutions every time.

Be interesting to see the scope and results after grounding complete.

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John Mitchell

Global Sales and Marketing Director

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Motor chokes and sine filters have great effects on this especially for longer cable lengths seen on applications like borehole pumps and conveyors. Anything over 50 meters I would say. We also offer a solution called Motor Tamer to reduce the reflective wave effect. Not to mention the longer the cable lengths without output mitigation increases the input side EMC effects also.

Gollapalli Sreenivasulu

M.tech ,M.I.E, C Eng(E) S.M.I.I.E, M.I.E.T,M(IEEE) ,NSC

1mo

Insightful

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Don't forget to short the AC power cables length as much as you can, specially with fast swtching devices!

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Kenneth Wyatt

★ Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC) Consultant | EMC Training | Product Design Reviews | Pre-Compliance Test ★

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There’s another reason to slow down the edges of power conversion (or motor control) switching and that is a reduction in radiated and conducted emissions. I’ll post an article on this shortly.

Werner Grommes

Functional Safety, EMC, EMF and EM Simulations

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In electric vehicles, the inverters are clocked at 4 kHz and even higher. The voltage is well over 100V and over 400V. The interference spectrum starts at 4 kHz and contains harmonics of up to several 100 MHz. The harmonics decrease with increasing frequency. Now preferential resonances occur due to housing openings, PCB conductor track lengths and cable lengths. They are often strong in the range from 50 MHz to 250 MHz. It is therefore not surprising that the high pulse voltage peaks at a distance of 3m or 10m are over 40-100 dBuV/m and exceed the interference emission limits...

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Kenneth Wyatt

★ Electromagnetic Compatibility (EMC) Consultant | EMC Training | Product Design Reviews | Pre-Compliance Test ★

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Here is an example of power conversion system ringing and how it translates to peak EMI in the frequency domain. While this example case uses a GaN switch in a buck converter, the principle is the same for MOSFET motor drivers, which can easily switch in nanoseconds. https://www.eeworldonline.com/characterize-emi-from-dc-dc-converter-ringing/

Akwasi Cobby

VFD Specialist- All Brands (ABB Certified), Gas Detection System Specialist (MSA Certified), Phoenix Controls VAV, Antec Controls (Price) VAV

4w

What type and brand of scope are you using for this analysis

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