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Sure, it just feels like an incomplete justification to completely prevent a drug from entering the market and being used. Also, that was just the hypothesized mechanism at play, it may not have been what was actually happening, which is the other "ugh" part to this.

That said, the article may not be fairly representing what happened in the first place, so...



>Sure, it just feels like an incomplete justification to completely prevent a drug from entering the market and being used.

Clicking "FDA" in the bit you quoted above takes you to a different page wherein the FDA laments the lack of data around the drug (eg, the "hypothesized mechanism"). It also suggests that the companies intend to work with the FDA more on this.

Was the vote against approval a move to "completely prevent a drug from entering the market and being used", or was it a desire to better understand it before saying "okay"?


> Was the vote against approval a move to "completely prevent a drug from entering the market and being used", or was it a desire to better understand it before saying "okay"?

Why do you present this as an either/or?

> Clicking "FDA" in the bit you quoted above takes you to a different page

Indeed, where I found that...

> That said, the article may not be fairly representing what happened in the first place, so...

...this is exactly what happened, i.e. I was successfully misled even before reaching your false dichotomy. Yay.


>Why do you present this as an either/or?

>... your false dichotomy.

I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to answer your first question before coming to the conclusion that I was using a false dichotomy.

I didn't intend to present it as an "either/or", though I can see how it can be read that way. I simply read you saying that they "completely prevent[ed]" something from coming to market when, perhaps, they're not "completely" doing anything and are open to doing it provided that they know more about it. That the "incomplete justification" you lamented may also have been how the FDA felt about the data provided to them.

It could also be for other reasons, absolutely! This is just one possibility that seems very obvious to me. There's no either/or from my end.


> I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to answer your first question before coming to the conclusion that I was using a false dichotomy.

If I didn't already conclude that you presented a false dichotomy, why would I have inquired about why you did so? It's also not set in stone; from your reply I can just change my mind afterwards. But why do it in two rounds when I can do it in one?

I understand if I came across as hostile though, I admit it was sadly reflexive, and I apologize.

> perhaps, they're not "completely" doing anything and are open to doing it provided that they know more about it.

That's not a nuance I intended to disregard. Yes, I understand they can revisit the drug's approval later, didn't mean to suggest otherwise.

Gosh I hate natural language sometimes.


>Gosh I hate natural language.

Especially when it's sometimes hard to read tone, even moreso from a stranger whose communication style we're unfamiliar with. Even harder still, comments online generally don't lend themselves well to nuance and assumptions can easily be made, such as my leaning too heavily on your use of the word "completely"! Should we hug it out?

Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. :)


Cheers, no hard feelings.


> Also, that was just the hypothesized mechanism at play, it may not have been what was actually happening

The more I learn about pharmacology, the more I realize this is the norm, rather than the exception.




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