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It seems like you really missed the point. Of course there are reasons we still get cancer, just like there are reasons people get fat. Evolutionarily people are way more likely to die of being under nourished than over, so the body packs on fat when it can. Evolution did not optimize for 2025

> Some people probably do come at it from the moral angle. But there are good reasons to assume that this time isn't different, that there is indeed no free lunch.

I'm struggling to understand what these sentences even mean. A medication may have side effects? Like every single medication we take? Yeah, of course it might. We don't have threads clutching their pearls about most medicines though. Tylenol can easily kill you if abused, but we don't have threads talking about how there's "no free lunch" for people using Tylenol responsibly.

> Thankfully, everyone is free to make that risk assessment themselves. Just don't start trying to force it on anyone.

Who is saying anything about forcing something on you? Is someone trying to force you to take Ozempic?





  > Is someone trying to force you to take Ozempic?
A shocking amount of doctors in Poland nowadays.

> It seems like you really missed the point

Yeah, I guess I don't really know what your point was if it wasn't to ask why we get cancer. Maybe that's my fault?

> A medication may have side effects

... beyond the initially understood ones. Tylenol has been around for a long time. When it first came out, people were probably popping it like candy until they realized the limits, and now it's pretty well understood.

And who cares if people are "clutching their pearls"? What harm does that do?

> Is someone trying to force you to take Ozempic?

Not yet, but I won't be surprised if people start pushing for it. Think about things like soda laws and seatbelt laws. If my being obese is costing you tax or insurance dollars and we have this magic pill, it's only a matter of time before the machine does its thing.


People clutched pearls about mRNA vaccines and now the US is ending all funding for them because one of those nutjobs is running HHS, this will cause an untold amount of harm and deaths. The truth matters, but unfortunately not as much as the narrative.

What does "pearl clutching" have to do with the truth? The whole point is nobody knows what the outcome will be for people being on these things for weight loss long term.

Some people think things will be great, and we've already got everything figured out. Other people are not so optimistic. Neither side knows the future. There is no "truth" here that you have exclusive access to.

This is why I said it's great that everyone can make that risk analysis themselves. If someone comes along and takes these meds off the market for no good reason, then there's something to complain about.




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