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         DPW Lien Resolution


                    By:
                    Joe Chapman
                    Schmidt Kramer PC
                    (717) 888-8888
                    jchapman@schmidtkramer.com
December 3, 2012
Example 1: the big easy




  Tractor Trailer accident with
$100,000 of first party benefit and
     Settlement for $85,000
Responsibility to
  Give Notice-Twice
• 62 P.S. § 1409(b)(4) & (5)
   —beginning of claim
    -- settling the case
What to include in Notice Letter
•   Name of client
•   Social security number of client (last four digits will work)
•   Date of birth
•   Address
•   Date of incident
•   Type of incident (auto/medical malpractice, premises)
•   Injuries sustained (with as much detail as can be
    provided)*
•   Court name and docket, if in suit (if not in suit, tell them)
•   Name and address of tortfeasor
•   Name of both first and third party insurers if auto case
•   Insurance adjusters’ names and phone numbers
Subro Letter
Subro Letter
Injuries
• If at some point you are going to end up arguing
  treatment was not related and therefore expenses
  should not be part of the Statement of Claim…
• Don’t also include those treatments as part of
  building your damages for the insurance adjuster.
• DPW may ask you at some point for you demand…
  Obviously, want to claim the treatment which is
  related, and leave other parts out.
• Corollary: before claiming a treatment was not
  related, review your demand!
VIA FACSIMILE (717) 772-6553


                                                                                  Notice of
Department of Public Welfare
Office of Administration
TPL-Casualty Unit
P. O. Box 8486


                                                                                 settlement
Harrisburg, PA 17105-8486
RE:              Client
                 Date of Birth: ____b/d____
                 SSN: ***-**-8476
                 Date of Accident: August 10, 2010
Dear Sir or Madam:
I write in follow up to my ______date____ letter in which I notified you that
the Department may have paid medical bills related to an auto accident on
______date of incident____ for ____client name____.

More specifically, I wanted to outline the injuries that she suffered in that
accident so that you can most easily identify bills which were paid related to
the accident: right distal intro-articular radius fracture; right wrist injury
requiring splinting; disc bulge at L4-L5; back pain requiring physical
therapy; back pain requiring steroid injections.

Please also know that we have reached a tentative settlement agreement
with the tortfeasor in the case for $___dollar figure___. To that end, I would
very much appreciate if you would provide a Statement of Claim so that we
can take care of our responsibilities to the Department, as well as move
forward on settling the case for our client.

Should you have any questions, please telephone me at my office. Thank
you.

Very truly yours,
SCHMIDT KRAMER PC
D. Joseph Chapman
Attorney at Law
DJC/aww
Ethics
Rule 3.2 Expediting
  Litigation
• A lawyer shall make
  reasonable efforts to
  expedite litigation
  consistent with the
  interests of the client.
Molasses in
   December?
             DPW

– Approximately 27,000 cases being
  handled

– 23 workers to work the cases

– those same 23 workers are also
  attempting to resolve over 12,000
  estate reimbursement cases

– may take three months to get a
  statement of claim

– they went paperless in March
  2010

– in 2011/12 fiscal year they closed
  $48 million dollars of claims.
Example 2: Achtung!




Small auto case where Plaintiff passed
 away during the case from problems
 unrelated to accident.
Review the Statement of Claim
• In this situation, I found that all the claimed
  expenses DPW had on their statement of
  claim were dated after the treatment that I
  claimed in my demand.
• Send letter explaining why the expenses
  are out and send copy of demand.
Send dispute letter
I write having reviewed your Statement of Claim from August of 2012, concerning the Estate of
     Heather.

As you will recall, this office represents her for an auto accident which occurred on February 11,
    2010. Heather’s treatment for the injuries she received in the auto accident was limited, and the
    settlement which is tentatively agreed to with the third party insurer represents that amount of
    treatment. I have attached our Demand to this letter, so that you can see we claimed medical
    treatment only up through the latter part of 2010.

I noticed that all of the medical expenses included in your Statement of Claim are for dates of
     services which are 2011 and later. Please know that Heather was diagnosed with cancer as well
     as serious problems with her kidneys, which eventually led to her demise in 2012. I do not
     believe that expenses contained in the Statement of Claim are attributable to the car accident for
     which we pursued a claim against Erie Insurance. Again as my reasoning I use that all of the
     treatment claimed in our Demand was through 2010, where all of the medical expenses were for
     dates of service following January of 2011 in your Statement of Claim. If you would, please
     review the Statement of Claim expenses and let me know whether you are willing to retract your
     assertion of a lien in this situation.


Should you have any questions, I would be glad to talk to you about any of the information in my
   letter. Thank you.
Only Half
• DPW can only take half of your client's
  settlment.
• The one half is calculated on the net after
  attorney's fees and of costs
• It should be taken before paying other
  outstanding medical bills.
• 62 Pa. C.S.A. 1409(b)(11)
Ethics:
 Client concerns:

 Make sure that you only pay
 DPW back for expenses that
 resulted from the accident…
 especially where comorbidities.




Rule 1.6 Confidentiality of Information
• (a) A lawyer shall not reveal information
  relating to representation of a client unless
  the client gives informed consent, except for
  disclosures that are impliedly authorized in
  order to carry out the representation, and
  except as stated in paragraphs (b) and (c).
Example 3: The Thinker

      • Pedestrian accident where
        client is left in vegetative
        state, limited coverage.
      • Client requires continuing
        government services.
How do you want to handle
        things?
Or…

Start Early,
That is Your
stick!




               Grinch Pinata
Consider a Special Needs Trust
• Self Funded- 42 U.S.C. §1396p(d)(4)(A)
• Pooled- 42 U.S.C. § 1396p(d)(4)(C)
• 62 P.S. §1414, Pennsylvania Statute
  providing for SNTs
Pooled
Options:

Todd Belisle
The Center for Special Needs
Trust Administration
4912 Creekside Drive
Clearwater, FL 33760
Todd.Belisle@centersmail.com
(877) 766-5331


Arc Community Trust of Pa.
1004 West 9th Ave
King of Prussia, PA 19406

Phone: 610-265-4788
Fax: 610-265-4688
info@arctrust.org
Special Needs Trust-Financials
Petition for Settlement and SNT
•   Part of Bryan’s medical bills were paid by the Commonwealth’s Department of Public Welfare (“DPW”),
    which has asserted a lien in the amount of $250,757.12. (See DPW statement of claim attached as Ex. I.)
     In accord with the statutory provisions, DPW is entitled to only 50% of net after counsel fees and
    costs, 62 P.S. § 1409(b)(11), and Petitioner requests permission to hold in escrow the amount of
    $17,791.85 in order to resolve the lien with DPW.

•   Petitioner will request that the Medicare and DPW liens be waived, based on the serious nature of the
    injury, Bryan’s financial condition, and the hardship which paying the liens would inflict on him.

•   Bryan currently qualifies for Medicaid benefits, payable through Pennsylvania’s DPW, including
    medical assistance and assistance with home care. He also receives Social Security Disability
    payments.

•   In order to maintain these necessary benefits, as well as any other benefits for which Bryan may be
    eligible now or in the future, his natural guardian will create a Special Needs Trust. The documents to
    establish the trust are attached as Ex. J. Petitioner requests this Court’s approve use of the trust and
    grant permission for Bryan’s natural guardian, Pam, to establish the pooled Special Needs Trust for
    Bryan Herrick’s benefit.

•   Petitioner and Petitioner’s counsel believe it is in the best interest of the incapacitated not to have
    funds owned by Bryan or his natural guardian, Pam with whom he resides, but rather to have the
    funds placed in a Special Needs Trust.

•   Petitioner requests the amount to be awarded to the incapacitated Bryan, be distributed to the Trustee
    of the Special Needs Trust, and Petitioner’s counsel will provide the Court with proof of transfer to the
    trustee within ninety (90) days of this Court’s approval of the Special Needs Trust.
Is fifty percent too much?

 Recall: In the Third Circuit’s Tristani opinion it was
 concerned about the procedure for a dispute over
 the amount of the lien.
Sometimes you want to go…
      But it doesn’t always
       work out that way.

•Settlement before suit
•Obviously compromised value
•Significant lien
•Not a minor/incapcitated
person/deceased
•You want a hearing
DPW Bureau of Hearings and Appeals
  http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/dpworganization/officeofadministr
  ation/bureauofhearingsandappeals/index.htm
Standing Practice Order
http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/foradults/hearingsandappealsprocess/index.htm



                         Supplemental Manual
http://services.dpw.state.pa.us/oimpolicymanuals/manuals/bop/su/index.htm

•   You will find policies on:
     – Fair hearing
     – Scheduling the hearing
     – Conduct of the hearing


          Pa. Code Administrative Hearings
                                 55 Pa. Code § 275
Late Breaking News



Dateline:                If there is an indication that
Friday,                the statement of claim is
November 30,           under dispute and consensus
2012: 3:30pm.          cannot be reached, then we
                       refer the case to our legal
Email                  office for creation of a
explaining how         statement of claim with appeal
it would come          rights letter.  This is not a
about that our         standard letter in our suite of
clients would          correspondence as it requires
be given the           the oversight of legal counsel. 
opportunity to         The letter includes
have an                instructions on how to appeal.
administrative
hearing.
Ethics
•   Here, you not only had to protect your client’s
    interest in the claim by making sure the lien is
    only what it should be…and maybe applying for
    a waiver or compromise, but also
•   Have to protect against the loss of future
    government services.




•   Rule 1.1 Competence
     – A lawyer shall provide competent representation
        to a client. Competent representation requires
        the legal knowledge, skill, thoroughness and
        preparation reasonably necessary for the
        representation.
•   Rule 3.1 Meritorious Claims and Contentions
     – A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding,
        or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless
        there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that
        is not frivolous, which includes a good faith
        argument for an extension, modification or
        reversal of existing law.
Clean Up
If I haven’t
       said it
      enough
•Start Early
•Treat DPW rep like an adjuster,
if they ask you to pull, don’t
push.
•Remember what your client
wants is the check, after you
have told them the case is
settled.
•Save the pushing for when it
•matters.

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2012 presentation dpw liens

  • 1. www.schmidtkramer.com DPW Lien Resolution By: Joe Chapman Schmidt Kramer PC (717) 888-8888 jchapman@schmidtkramer.com December 3, 2012
  • 2. Example 1: the big easy Tractor Trailer accident with $100,000 of first party benefit and Settlement for $85,000
  • 3. Responsibility to Give Notice-Twice • 62 P.S. § 1409(b)(4) & (5) —beginning of claim -- settling the case
  • 4. What to include in Notice Letter • Name of client • Social security number of client (last four digits will work) • Date of birth • Address • Date of incident • Type of incident (auto/medical malpractice, premises) • Injuries sustained (with as much detail as can be provided)* • Court name and docket, if in suit (if not in suit, tell them) • Name and address of tortfeasor • Name of both first and third party insurers if auto case • Insurance adjusters’ names and phone numbers
  • 7. Injuries • If at some point you are going to end up arguing treatment was not related and therefore expenses should not be part of the Statement of Claim… • Don’t also include those treatments as part of building your damages for the insurance adjuster. • DPW may ask you at some point for you demand… Obviously, want to claim the treatment which is related, and leave other parts out. • Corollary: before claiming a treatment was not related, review your demand!
  • 8. VIA FACSIMILE (717) 772-6553 Notice of Department of Public Welfare Office of Administration TPL-Casualty Unit P. O. Box 8486 settlement Harrisburg, PA 17105-8486 RE: Client Date of Birth: ____b/d____ SSN: ***-**-8476 Date of Accident: August 10, 2010 Dear Sir or Madam: I write in follow up to my ______date____ letter in which I notified you that the Department may have paid medical bills related to an auto accident on ______date of incident____ for ____client name____. More specifically, I wanted to outline the injuries that she suffered in that accident so that you can most easily identify bills which were paid related to the accident: right distal intro-articular radius fracture; right wrist injury requiring splinting; disc bulge at L4-L5; back pain requiring physical therapy; back pain requiring steroid injections. Please also know that we have reached a tentative settlement agreement with the tortfeasor in the case for $___dollar figure___. To that end, I would very much appreciate if you would provide a Statement of Claim so that we can take care of our responsibilities to the Department, as well as move forward on settling the case for our client. Should you have any questions, please telephone me at my office. Thank you. Very truly yours, SCHMIDT KRAMER PC D. Joseph Chapman Attorney at Law DJC/aww
  • 9. Ethics Rule 3.2 Expediting Litigation • A lawyer shall make reasonable efforts to expedite litigation consistent with the interests of the client.
  • 10. Molasses in December? DPW – Approximately 27,000 cases being handled – 23 workers to work the cases – those same 23 workers are also attempting to resolve over 12,000 estate reimbursement cases – may take three months to get a statement of claim – they went paperless in March 2010 – in 2011/12 fiscal year they closed $48 million dollars of claims.
  • 11. Example 2: Achtung! Small auto case where Plaintiff passed away during the case from problems unrelated to accident.
  • 12. Review the Statement of Claim • In this situation, I found that all the claimed expenses DPW had on their statement of claim were dated after the treatment that I claimed in my demand. • Send letter explaining why the expenses are out and send copy of demand.
  • 13. Send dispute letter I write having reviewed your Statement of Claim from August of 2012, concerning the Estate of Heather. As you will recall, this office represents her for an auto accident which occurred on February 11, 2010. Heather’s treatment for the injuries she received in the auto accident was limited, and the settlement which is tentatively agreed to with the third party insurer represents that amount of treatment. I have attached our Demand to this letter, so that you can see we claimed medical treatment only up through the latter part of 2010. I noticed that all of the medical expenses included in your Statement of Claim are for dates of services which are 2011 and later. Please know that Heather was diagnosed with cancer as well as serious problems with her kidneys, which eventually led to her demise in 2012. I do not believe that expenses contained in the Statement of Claim are attributable to the car accident for which we pursued a claim against Erie Insurance. Again as my reasoning I use that all of the treatment claimed in our Demand was through 2010, where all of the medical expenses were for dates of service following January of 2011 in your Statement of Claim. If you would, please review the Statement of Claim expenses and let me know whether you are willing to retract your assertion of a lien in this situation. Should you have any questions, I would be glad to talk to you about any of the information in my letter. Thank you.
  • 14. Only Half • DPW can only take half of your client's settlment. • The one half is calculated on the net after attorney's fees and of costs • It should be taken before paying other outstanding medical bills. • 62 Pa. C.S.A. 1409(b)(11)
  • 15. Ethics: Client concerns: Make sure that you only pay DPW back for expenses that resulted from the accident… especially where comorbidities. Rule 1.6 Confidentiality of Information • (a) A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to representation of a client unless the client gives informed consent, except for disclosures that are impliedly authorized in order to carry out the representation, and except as stated in paragraphs (b) and (c).
  • 16. Example 3: The Thinker • Pedestrian accident where client is left in vegetative state, limited coverage. • Client requires continuing government services.
  • 17. How do you want to handle things?
  • 18. Or… Start Early, That is Your stick! Grinch Pinata
  • 19. Consider a Special Needs Trust • Self Funded- 42 U.S.C. §1396p(d)(4)(A) • Pooled- 42 U.S.C. § 1396p(d)(4)(C) • 62 P.S. §1414, Pennsylvania Statute providing for SNTs
  • 20. Pooled Options: Todd Belisle The Center for Special Needs Trust Administration 4912 Creekside Drive Clearwater, FL 33760 Todd.Belisle@centersmail.com (877) 766-5331 Arc Community Trust of Pa. 1004 West 9th Ave King of Prussia, PA 19406 Phone: 610-265-4788 Fax: 610-265-4688 info@arctrust.org
  • 22. Petition for Settlement and SNT • Part of Bryan’s medical bills were paid by the Commonwealth’s Department of Public Welfare (“DPW”), which has asserted a lien in the amount of $250,757.12. (See DPW statement of claim attached as Ex. I.) In accord with the statutory provisions, DPW is entitled to only 50% of net after counsel fees and costs, 62 P.S. § 1409(b)(11), and Petitioner requests permission to hold in escrow the amount of $17,791.85 in order to resolve the lien with DPW. • Petitioner will request that the Medicare and DPW liens be waived, based on the serious nature of the injury, Bryan’s financial condition, and the hardship which paying the liens would inflict on him. • Bryan currently qualifies for Medicaid benefits, payable through Pennsylvania’s DPW, including medical assistance and assistance with home care. He also receives Social Security Disability payments. • In order to maintain these necessary benefits, as well as any other benefits for which Bryan may be eligible now or in the future, his natural guardian will create a Special Needs Trust. The documents to establish the trust are attached as Ex. J. Petitioner requests this Court’s approve use of the trust and grant permission for Bryan’s natural guardian, Pam, to establish the pooled Special Needs Trust for Bryan Herrick’s benefit. • Petitioner and Petitioner’s counsel believe it is in the best interest of the incapacitated not to have funds owned by Bryan or his natural guardian, Pam with whom he resides, but rather to have the funds placed in a Special Needs Trust. • Petitioner requests the amount to be awarded to the incapacitated Bryan, be distributed to the Trustee of the Special Needs Trust, and Petitioner’s counsel will provide the Court with proof of transfer to the trustee within ninety (90) days of this Court’s approval of the Special Needs Trust.
  • 23. Is fifty percent too much? Recall: In the Third Circuit’s Tristani opinion it was concerned about the procedure for a dispute over the amount of the lien.
  • 24. Sometimes you want to go… But it doesn’t always work out that way. •Settlement before suit •Obviously compromised value •Significant lien •Not a minor/incapcitated person/deceased •You want a hearing
  • 25. DPW Bureau of Hearings and Appeals http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/dpworganization/officeofadministr ation/bureauofhearingsandappeals/index.htm
  • 26. Standing Practice Order http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/foradults/hearingsandappealsprocess/index.htm Supplemental Manual http://services.dpw.state.pa.us/oimpolicymanuals/manuals/bop/su/index.htm • You will find policies on: – Fair hearing – Scheduling the hearing – Conduct of the hearing Pa. Code Administrative Hearings 55 Pa. Code § 275
  • 27. Late Breaking News Dateline:   If there is an indication that Friday, the statement of claim is November 30, under dispute and consensus 2012: 3:30pm. cannot be reached, then we refer the case to our legal Email office for creation of a explaining how statement of claim with appeal it would come rights letter.  This is not a about that our standard letter in our suite of clients would correspondence as it requires be given the the oversight of legal counsel.  opportunity to The letter includes have an instructions on how to appeal. administrative hearing.
  • 28. Ethics • Here, you not only had to protect your client’s interest in the claim by making sure the lien is only what it should be…and maybe applying for a waiver or compromise, but also • Have to protect against the loss of future government services. • Rule 1.1 Competence – A lawyer shall provide competent representation to a client. Competent representation requires the legal knowledge, skill, thoroughness and preparation reasonably necessary for the representation. • Rule 3.1 Meritorious Claims and Contentions – A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification or reversal of existing law.
  • 30. If I haven’t said it enough •Start Early •Treat DPW rep like an adjuster, if they ask you to pull, don’t push. •Remember what your client wants is the check, after you have told them the case is settled. •Save the pushing for when it •matters.