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Agile	
  Tes<ng	
  Days	
  2012	
  
                                   Potsdam,	
  Germany	
  
                                                       	
  
                       Janet	
  Gregory	
  and	
  Lisa	
  Crispin	
  
                                                       	
  
                                                Copyright	
  2012	
  
                                                       	
  
Co-­‐authors	
  of	
  Agile	
  Tes<ng:	
  A	
  Prac<cal	
  Guide	
  for	
  Testers	
  and	
  Agile	
  Teams,	
  
                                                       	
  
                                    	
  Addison-­‐Wesley	
  2009	
  
MYTHS	
  ….	
  
	
  
Werewolves	
  exist,	
  	
  
	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  don’t	
  they?	
  
MYTHS	
  ….	
  
	
  
Werewolves	
  exist,	
  	
  
	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  don’t	
  they?	
  




                     Medusa:	
  The	
  sight	
  of	
  her	
  turned	
  onlookers	
  to	
  stone	
  	
  

                           hPp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rubens_Medusa.jpeg	
  
Agile testing myths v5 final-
Truth?	
  	
  

	
  
         Testers	
  	
  aren’t	
  	
  
            needed	
  
               or	
  
       Testing is dead
It’s ALIVE!!!




hPp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bPmVhyHBRAM	
  
	
  
all	
  about	
  	
  
      ……	
  
        	
  
CONTEXT	
  
Truth	
  ?	
  


ATDD	
  /	
  SBE	
  tests	
  
          ONLY	
  	
  
confirm	
  behavior	
  	
  
             	
  
             	
  
A	
  related	
  story	
  …	
  
           	
  
           	
  
        Tes9ng	
  	
  
     is	
  ONLY	
  for	
  	
  
       so<ware	
  
Copyright	
  2012	
  
Lisa	
  Crispin,	
  Janet	
  Gregory.	
  
Truth	
  	
  
                                                      or	
  
                                                   reality?	
  
                                                      	
  
                                                   Testers	
  
                                                    MUST	
  
                                                    write	
  
                                                    code	
  

hPp://www.vegetarianfriends.net/issue18.html	
  
Mul<-­‐	
  d
Expert	
  /                               iscipline
          	
  Discipli                 skills	
    	
  
                       ne	
  
        skills	
  
•  system	
  architecture	
  
     ◦  high	
  level	
  (context)	
  
     ◦  component	
  level	
  




Thx	
  to	
  Lynn	
  McKee	
  for	
  the	
  term	
  technical	
  awareness	
     13	
  
Tes<ng	
  awareness	
  for	
  programmers	
  
Myth	
  or	
  Truth?	
  
           	
  
           	
  
           	
  
Agile	
  teams	
  are	
  
dazzled	
  by	
  tools	
  
Tools	
  enable	
  wider,	
  deeper	
  explora<on	
  
Tests	
  /	
  Examples	
  	
  
  Tools	
  can	
                                                passes	
  




                     Test	
  Framework	
  
                                                                  to	
  

  promote	
  
                                             Test	
  Method	
  /	
  Fixture	
  
collabora/on	
  
                                                    calls	
                  returns	
  
                                                                              result	
  




                                                 Developer	
  Code	
  
Tools	
  serve	
  us	
  
Myth:	
  	
  
Agile	
  =	
  speed	
  	
  
Reality:	
  	
  New	
  teams	
  go	
  slower	
  
Reality:	
  	
  
Teams	
  need	
  
<me	
  to	
  learn	
  
Reality:	
  Focus	
  on	
  quality	
  
means	
  speed	
  down	
  the	
  road	
  
Agile testing myths v5 final-
Agile testing myths v5 final-
Contact	
  Informa<on	
  
                   	
  
   janet@agiletester.ca	
  
   www.janetgregory.ca	
  
 twiPer:	
  @janetgregoryca	
  
                   	
  
    lisa@agiletester.ca	
  
   www.lisacrispin.com	
  
   twiPer:	
  	
  @lisacrispin	
  
                   	
  
    www.agiletester.ca	
  
 
       •  Explore	
  It	
  Elisabeth	
  Hendrickson’s	
  new	
  book	
  -­‐	
  coming	
  
       •  It’s	
  alive	
  video:	
  hPp://www.youtube.com/watch?
            v=bPmVhyHBRAM	
  
       •  Lee	
  Copeland,	
  “Reports	
  of	
  the	
  Death	
  of	
  Tes9ng	
  Have	
  Been	
  
            Greatly	
  Exaggerated”,	
  BePer	
  Sojware,	
  Nov-­‐Dec	
  2012	
  issue	
  
       •  Job	
  survey:	
  hPp://testobsessed.com/?
            s=survey&submit.x=0&submit.y=0	
  
       	
  



Copyright	
  2012	
  
Lisa	
  Crispin,	
  Janet	
  Gregory.	
  
 
            Instead	
  of	
  saying	
  NO,	
  	
  
          or	
  being	
  the	
  gatekeeper	
  
                           	
  
    Be	
  the	
  informa<on	
  provider	
  so	
  
    business	
  can	
  make	
  the	
  decisions	
  
                           	
  
Ques/ons…	
                	
  
Copyright	
  2012	
  
                           	
  
Lisa	
  Crispin,	
  Janet	
  Gregory.	
               27	
  

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Agile testing myths v5 final-

  • 1. Agile  Tes<ng  Days  2012   Potsdam,  Germany     Janet  Gregory  and  Lisa  Crispin     Copyright  2012     Co-­‐authors  of  Agile  Tes<ng:  A  Prac<cal  Guide  for  Testers  and  Agile  Teams,      Addison-­‐Wesley  2009  
  • 2. MYTHS  ….     Werewolves  exist,                                            don’t  they?  
  • 3. MYTHS  ….     Werewolves  exist,                                            don’t  they?   Medusa:  The  sight  of  her  turned  onlookers  to  stone     hPp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rubens_Medusa.jpeg  
  • 5. Truth?       Testers    aren’t     needed   or   Testing is dead
  • 7. all  about     ……     CONTEXT  
  • 8. Truth  ?   ATDD  /  SBE  tests   ONLY     confirm  behavior        
  • 9. A  related  story  …       Tes9ng     is  ONLY  for     so<ware  
  • 10. Copyright  2012   Lisa  Crispin,  Janet  Gregory.  
  • 11. Truth     or   reality?     Testers   MUST   write   code   hPp://www.vegetarianfriends.net/issue18.html  
  • 12. Mul<-­‐  d Expert  / iscipline  Discipli skills     ne   skills  
  • 13. •  system  architecture   ◦  high  level  (context)   ◦  component  level   Thx  to  Lynn  McKee  for  the  term  technical  awareness   13  
  • 14. Tes<ng  awareness  for  programmers  
  • 15. Myth  or  Truth?         Agile  teams  are   dazzled  by  tools  
  • 16. Tools  enable  wider,  deeper  explora<on  
  • 17. Tests  /  Examples     Tools  can   passes   Test  Framework   to   promote   Test  Method  /  Fixture   collabora/on   calls   returns   result   Developer  Code  
  • 19. Myth:     Agile  =  speed    
  • 20. Reality:    New  teams  go  slower  
  • 21. Reality:     Teams  need   <me  to  learn  
  • 22. Reality:  Focus  on  quality   means  speed  down  the  road  
  • 25. Contact  Informa<on     janet@agiletester.ca   www.janetgregory.ca   twiPer:  @janetgregoryca     lisa@agiletester.ca   www.lisacrispin.com   twiPer:    @lisacrispin     www.agiletester.ca  
  • 26.   •  Explore  It  Elisabeth  Hendrickson’s  new  book  -­‐  coming   •  It’s  alive  video:  hPp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=bPmVhyHBRAM   •  Lee  Copeland,  “Reports  of  the  Death  of  Tes9ng  Have  Been   Greatly  Exaggerated”,  BePer  Sojware,  Nov-­‐Dec  2012  issue   •  Job  survey:  hPp://testobsessed.com/? s=survey&submit.x=0&submit.y=0     Copyright  2012   Lisa  Crispin,  Janet  Gregory.  
  • 27.   Instead  of  saying  NO,     or  being  the  gatekeeper     Be  the  informa<on  provider  so   business  can  make  the  decisions     Ques/ons…     Copyright  2012     Lisa  Crispin,  Janet  Gregory.   27