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The document discusses the differences between college and university programs and the factors students should consider when choosing between the two options. It provides pros and cons of college and university to help students determine whether a college diploma, university degree, or combination of the two is the best fit based on their learning style, career goals, and other individual preferences. The career mentoring group meeting aims to help students explore all of their post-secondary options and choose the path that is right for them.
- 1. Career Mentoring Group MeetingWeek One – Finding the Right Fit for YOU!
- 2. About 85% of graduates who enter the workforce land a job within 6 months of graduationANSWER: COLLEGE
- 3. 1 in 3 students are involved in sports at their schoolANSWER: UNIVERSITY
- 4. 55 % of applicants are femaleANSWER: UNIVERSITY
- 5. Holly Kruitbosch was a nursing student and received the Pembroke bursary for excellence in her program. She now works at the Hospital for Sick Children.ANSWER: COLLEGE
- 6. 48.1% of all Canadian students are at a school in Ontario ANSWER: UNIVERSITY
- 7. The Ongoing DebateCollege vs. UniversityThere continues to be a divide among students, their parents and guidance counselors. In an upcoming meeting we will deal with influences and how they perceive and affect student’s decisions but now I want to talk about why students should consider both educational pathways. After all, it’s your future.Most students that I have dealt with that have chosen university over college claim they’ve done so for two reasons:“I’ve always been in the university or “academic” stream in high school.”Or generally the most common…“My parents want me to get a degree.”Likewise, I often hear these two traditional answers when I hear why a student has chosen college over university:“I like to be hands-on. I don’t like sitting in a classroom for three hours.“Or the real kicker…“I’m not smart enough to go to university.“
- 8. The Ongoing DebateCollege vs. UniversityTonight we will think about where these notions come from. Why do your parents push you to get a degree? Who convinced you that you can’t do something you set your mind to? The idea that a university degree will automatically put you in a category above college graduates is simply no longer the case.Students often flip flop between college and university learning styles. Many current college students actually come from university after realizing that university-style learning just doesn’t work for them. I’ve also met plenty of college students who have decided to continue on to university when the last thing they ever thought they would do is set foot inside a classroom after their two-year diploma.Just think about it!! I’m not asking you to throw your 10-year plan out the window, I just want you to consider “Why Choose College” and “Why Choose University”. Remember that college and university are not polar opposites; each institution has their pros and cons and all that really matters is that you choose the right place for you. That might mean a college certificate, a masters degree or a combination of something in between. Just remember that this is your future- and it’s your responsibility prop open as many doors as possible.
- 9. Why Choose College?Top 10 Reasons to Consider CollegeYou are a kinesthetic learner (you learn through doing). You want a job. Fast. You don’t want to incur a huge amount of student debt. You prefer a smaller learning environment. You want a more casual learning environment. You want to network and make connections that will help your career. You’re not quite sure you want to commit to a four-year degree program. Your high school grades don’t reflect your potential. Flexibility. You’re interested in a diverse classroom experience.
- 10. Why Choose University?Top 10 Reasons to Consider UniversityYou love to learn. You’re an auditory learner. You’re not huge on class participation. You’re more of an independent learner. You enjoy reading. You have lots of school spirit – or none atSpeaking of individualityYou are a social butterfly and want your school life to reflect it. You want to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, etc. You want to open your mind and experience new things.
- 11. Types of College ProgramsCertificate Programs require the completion of two semesters (or one year) of study and often offer you an introduction to program choices, upgrading or quick job certification. Ex. Pre-healthDiploma Programs require the completion of at least four semesters (or two years) of study. An advanced diploma is granted after three years (6 semesters) of study.
- 12. Types of College ProgramsApplied Bachelor’s Degree Programs are four-year applied academic programs offer the best of both worlds—practice and theory. Collaborative & Joint Degree Programs offer the combination of hands-on learning that colleges are known for with the more theoretical approach of university studies. Students may earn either one or two credentials— one from the college and/or one from the university.Apprenticeships practical experience and skill programs. Devote 75-90% of on-the-job training and remaining classroom instruction. Get paid for work and become certified in the trade after completing provincial requirements. You often have to have employment prior to these programs.
- 13. Types of University ProgramsDEGREEis a formal, academic recognition that a student has successfully completed a university-level degree program.An undergraduate degree (also called a bachelor's degree or baccalaureate) can be entered directly from secondary school and generally requires three or four years of full-time university study to complete. An honours degree usually involves a higher level of concentration and achievement within the honours subject and may require additional credits. There are many different types of undergraduate degrees, but the most common are the Bachelor of Arts (BA) and the Bachelor of Science (BSc).
- 14. Types of University ProgramsMajor: your area of primary study. For instance, you could be pursuing a Bachelor of Arts degree with a major in History, Anthropology or English etc. A major requires the completion of approximately seven courses in one subject area.Double major: lets you concentrate your studies in two main areas. This flexibility gives you the chance to combine two related or unrelated areas of interest.Minor: an area of secondary concentration. A minor is a collection of five courses completed in an area other than your major.
- 15. So Then What School?Things You Need to ConsiderProgram availabilityDo you want to go away or stay local?What are the admissions averages and pre-requisite courses?How do you like to learn?Is there an Internship/Field Placement available?Small, medium or large school?What Scholarships/Bursaries are available?
- 16. So Then What School?Making the ChoiceCollege & University Tours in the FallApprenticeship FairView BooksOntario College and University FairsInstitutional Websiteswww.electronicinfo.ca – University Programswww.ontariocolleges.ca – College ProgramsYour Guidance Office
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- #10: 1 - some lectures but more focus on doing and often involve work placement, field placement or internships. 2 - typically only last one to three years. - offering applied degrees or “degree pathways” if you want to study longer. - advantage: you can work directly out of college and return to get your degree either part-time, through distance education or after you’ve saved up some cash. 3 - average college tuition cost is about $3,200 per year lasts two years, while the average cost of tuition in Ontario universities is $6,500 four year program. That $6,400 compared to $26000. Whew.4 - lower populations so the class sizes end up being much smaller. You actually get to know your professors and they get to know you. Means weaknesses or strengths are more likely to get you noticed in a college classroom.5 - college is “a lot more like high school” than university. Your teachers don’t have to be published or have completed tons of research to teach often allow you to call by name and give more contact6 - employ part-time professors that are still working in the industry. Networking with classroom colleagues7- Instead of taking another year of high school, gallivanting across Europe (which hey – I actually recommend if you can afford it!), or committing to a program you’re less than thrilled about – why not take a one year certificate that can actually add value to your career path? That way, if you decide it’s not your thing you can back out before getting in too deep.8 - your high school grades do not define you. or maybe you decide you do want to go to university but took college/applied level courses – your life is not over- If you are set on attending university (or really need a degree to pursue your career goals), there are lots of college programs that can help you pave the way into getting into university. If you’re set on becoming an RN but just didn’t get the grades you needed, look into pre-health, or the RPN program.9 - Maybe you need to work part-time, are a single parent or have to help out at home with younger siblings or a sick parent. - Whatever method you chose, college is definitely a great option for someone concerned with school/life balance.10 - College is a mosaic of different ages: right out of high school, attended or graduated college and those looking for a career change, university grads returning for a post-diploma.
- #11: 1-Soaking up knowledge and storing it for later use comes naturally to you. You are passionate about facts, figures and gaining new information.2- You retain information really well through listening to someone lecture. While not all university classes function this way, it is still commonplace.3 -lecture with 250 students makes it easy if you’re shy and like to learn independently. Keep in mind this also makes the temptation to skip class, since attendance is not generally taken in lectures.4 –missed class? be sure you can handle the catch-up work and are disciplined enough to get notes from another classmate and actually read them and not everything is covered in a lecture5 – textbooks, libraries etc.You will learn how to use resources like periodicals and journals instead of Wikipedia and Google. Not to mention access to things like microfiche, slide decks and old newspapers – things most high schools don’t have just hanging around.6 -institutions have been around for generatipons, and the traditions, rituals and rivalries have stuck around because students, staff and alumni keep them up. On the flip side Plenty of people revel in the anonymity of university7- Who you are is what makes you cool in university. Your classes are so huge there are bound to be plenty of people who will love and respect you for being different. In fact, being different in university is sort of a sweet card to be able to play. You can reinvent yourself, or fly your freak flag as high as you want. No one’s going to trip you in the hall or slam you into a locker for having purple hair. If you were a cheerleader with a secret comic book obsession, feel free to come clean.8 -Do you love to get involved? Interested in making life-long friends and participating in charity fundraisers? A sorority or fraternity might be something to consider. While less common in Canada than the U.S. Ability to create your own club and group9- lots of careers REQUIRE at minimum, a university degree. 10 –i’m talking about what you’re learning about who you are. Courses in universityare going to open your mind to a whole other world, but so will living with a roommate, doing laundry on your own, or defending a paper you think you deserve a higher mark on. University is a place for sharing knowledge, and sharing opinions. They key is to embrace all those different experiences, stories and backgrounds and help them shape who you are. Remember, you’re coming to University as the person you’ve been up until now. Let yourself be open to the person you want to be.