Interview With Swamiji Final
- 1. An Interview with Pujya Swami Dayananda Saraswati Swami Dayananda Saraswati is a great visionary, an eminent teacher of Vedanta, a powerful thinker and writer. As a teacher of Vedanta, he has established four traditional teaching centers and many more across the globe through his students. To get a better understanding of the various activities of Pujya Swami Dayananda Saraswati, connected with the protection of Hindu Dharma, Traditions, and Culture and welfare of the Society at large, an interview with Swamiji was conducted by Dr.V.Swaminathan, a scientist by profession, at the Arsha Vidya Gurukulam, Saylorsburg, PA. The interview proceedings are detailed below:
- 2. Pujya Sri Swamiji Speaks... V. Swaminathan: Pranams, Swamiji. Besides your teaching and public talks, you have lately launched several initiatives with the express intent of safeguarding and nurturing the Hindu dharma, traditions and culture and serving the Society. Here is a list of various activities that I have got glimpses of in satsangas with you: Teaching of Vedanta Gurukulams & Spiritual Retreat Centers: Running these facilities and teaching camps and long term courses for 5 to 6 months in a year Inspire and train a large number of people to become Vedanta teachers Many Public talks all over the world every year Outreach program Bhagavad Gita Home Study programme Research and Publications Recognizing contributions to Arsha vidya (Institution of ‘Arsha Kula Sreshtha’ award) Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha (The Voice of Collective Hindu Consciousness) Dharma Rakshana Samiti Recognition and encouragement of Guruswamys Propagation of Grama-devata worship (cala-pratistha of Angala Pramesvari Amman) All India Movement for Seva Running more than 79 Student Homes all over India for imparting education to less privileged Establishing 17 primary/higher secondary schools and and an Arts and Science College Maintaining 5 hospitals, 6 health clinics and 6 mobile medical vans Running more than 400 Sandhya Gurkulams in Tamilnadu and Karnataka Supporting a number of Women Self Help Groups Facilitating financial participation with Govt agencies for village projects like housing, water harvesting, drinking water schemes, construction of toilets and so on Pathasalas, schools for preservation of Vedas and Agamas Preservation of Temple traditions and cultures Oduvars – recognition and support for their livelihood and establishment of training schools for them
- 3. Construction of Ashta Dik Palakas and proper offerings at Brhadeesvarar temple Thiruvidaimarudur Ther (Chariot) Project Hindu-Jewish Summits Hindu-Buddhist Conferences Promoting Cultural Education through Purna Vidya Teaching Programme Preservation of arts and music Institution of Arsha Kala Bhushanam awards Thiruppugazh Conferences Promoting global harmony and world peace Thinkers' Meet (a forum for thinkers to address Hindu and National issues) Digital Library Project International conference on Vedic Sarasvati River and Hindu Civilization (to get the true story of ancient India) Fighting Global Warming (by advocating avoidance of red meat eating) Any other initiatives Swamiji would like to add? I wouldn’t be surprised if I missed a few. Swamiji: I think you have all the significant ones. VS: Swamiji, this is an incredible amount of work! Let us begin with teaching, that being an area very dear to you. Can Swamiji please speak about his work in this area and about the Gurukulams set up in India and overseas? Swamiji: I have been teaching Vedanta for almost fifty years now. Currently, I teach courses and hold camps for about 5 to 6 months each year and also deliver public talks in a number of cities in India and overseas. As a student I recognized that for a mumukshu to study Vedanta is not simple – one needs a good teacher, a place to stay, bhiksha – each one of these requires grace. Therefore, I created facilities for a three-year program of study at Rishikesh, Saylorsburg, Anaikatti and lastly in Nagpur. The long-term study program has a syllabus that includes study of Vedanta prakaranas, Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads and finally Brahmasutra (Catussutri). All these imply the study of Sankara Bhashya in the original. Along with these studies, the Sanskrit language is also taught with Paninian grammar. Besides all this, there are daily meditation and satsangas (which are often question and answer sessions). I along with my students have taught ten of these three-year programs (eight in India and two in the United States) and many of my students from these programmes are now teaching all over India and abroad. My
- 4. students are totally free to pursue what they like after the course. I encourage them to share their knowledge and be contributors wherever they are. The facilities for long-term teaching I talked about are called Gurukulams and they impart ‘Arsha Vidya’ i.e., the vidya (knowledge) of the rishis (seers) with a primary focus on teaching Vedanta and Sanskrit. During the courses, related disciplines like Vedic chanting, yoga, classical music, dance, Ayurveda, Jyotisha etc., which all stem from the Vedic culture, also find expression, and encouragement in all our institutions. (The word ‘arsha’ has also been used by many of my students in naming their facilities.) I do not believe in large centralized organizations and these institutions are simply meant to facilitate the teaching. The four institutions are at: • Swami Dayananda Ashram, Rishikesh 249201, Uttarakhand, India (http://www.arshavidhyapitam.org) • Arsha Vidya Gurukulam, Saylorsburg, P.O. Box 1059, PA 18353, USA (www.arshavidya.org) • Arsha Vidya Gurukulam, Anaikatti, Coimbatore - 641108, TN, India (http://www.arshavidya.in) • Arsha Vijnana Gurukulam, Vedapuri, Tah Katol, Dist Nagpur, Maharashtra, India (www.arshavidya-nagur.org) These institutions have a temple, facilities for teaching, bookstore, library, simple boarding and lodging for residential students with the focus being on the teaching of Vedanta. They offer a range of programs including weekend students programs, spiritual retreats, meditation camps, courses of various durations like 1 week, 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, 3 months, 6 months, 3 years in Vedanta, Sanskrit, Yoga, Astrology, Ayurveda and even classical music. All the institutions have had the privilege of having conducted one or more rigorous three-year programmes in Vedanta. Gurukulams also provide you with a support group and satsanga which help new aspirants stay the course. In addition to the four institutions I mentioned, we are also trying to establish a retreat center in a scenic location in the Western Ghats in India. The Dayananda Education Trust has recently taken over a center in Amboli, Maharashtra for spiritual learning and retreat. Amboli is a place surrounded by rain forests receiving 300 to 350 inches of rain in the monsoon season. It is situated on the road connecting Goa and Belgaum. The facility can be used by Arsha Vidya teachers for holding spiritual retreats. The address is:
- 5. Wholistic Centre for Yoga and Vedanta, Amboli, Maharashtra. brahman_game1@rediffmail.com VS: Thank you Swamiji. These Gurukulams are a blessing for people who are able to come and spend time there. How can others, who are unable to visit these Gurukulams, benefit from the teachings? Swamiji: The Bhagavad Gita Home Study Course is a very effective way of imbibing the teaching. The Gita Home Study course material is based on actual classroom teaching of the Bhagavad Gita to students of a three-year program in Vedanta conducted at Saylorsburg, PA. There were about 360 classes, which were transcribed and edited carefully to form this material. Since the material is based on a classroom teaching it is very effective. A translated version of this material is available in other languages also like Tamil and Kannada. You can also supplement this study material with the Bhagavad Gita Home Study MP3 CD set made up of seven CDs which cover all the 360 plus classes forming the basis for the home study material. There is also a searchable version of the course material for those who prefer an online resource rather than books. Recently, Aruna (Alan) has published a five volume set of books to learn Sanskrit grammar through the verses of the Bhagavad Gita - so you can learn grammar and Gita at the same time. So go for it. You can get all these from our bookstores at the Gurukulams1. Bhagavad Gita is a complete teaching including yoga (the preparation) and the Gita Home Study material will make things very clear. There was one person who had been studying for several years – he had studied all Upanishads and Brahmasutra with bhashyam but still had something obstructing his understanding. He came to the US to visit his children, and took the Gita Home Study books. He called later to tell me that the Gita Home Study had cleared his doubts and that it was very good material to get clarity. I recommend people form a group for the study of these books. Form a small group of 8 to 10 people, which we call a Gita Vicara Group, with a commitment to meet at a regular interval, like once in a week, and study together. One person can play the role of a facilitator and the group members can choose to take turns playing this role. Each member in the group reads a couple of pages loudly and then it can be discussed. The group becomes a support group and will help you stay with the satsanga 1 The books and CDs can be ordered online through http://books. arshavidya.org and also from the Arsha Vidya Gurukulams in India (Refer Page No 4 )
- 6. through thick and thin. If the group is unable to find answers, you can note down the questions and have them addressed by one of the teachers at the Gurukulams. In addition to these, the Arsha Vidya Centre for Research and Publication based in Chennai is publishing a number of books on the teachings. I am doing the final editing for all of these books – about 35 books have been published so far. There are different series of books, like the series on ‘Public Talks’, ‘Moments with oneself’, ‘Vakya Vicara’, ‘Mantras and Stotras’ and ‘Upanisad’ series. In addition to these, there are other books like ‘Visnu Sahasranamam’, ‘Collection of Essays’ etc. published else where. All these books are available at the bookstores in our Gurukulams and so are a number of DVDs, CDs and tapes on various topics. You can use these books and CDs to keep learning. VS: Thank you Swamiji. I would like to tell the readers that the Gita Home Study course includes not only a very germane explanation but also contemporary examples and jokes, which keep the readers from loosing attention even when the discussions are very technical. Moving from teaching to your activities for dharma- samrakshana, can Swamiji begin by telling us more about the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha initiative? Swamiji: The Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha is a unifying body that provides leadership, guidance and a collective voice for the Hindus. It was formed in 2002. The uniqueness of it is that for the first time in the history of India, heads of Hindu religious institutions have come together under one umbrella organization. The Sabha has presently 150 members who are mandaleswars and heads of ancient traditional institutions that are a few hundred years old and consists of Acharyas belonging to all the ancient sampradayas of Hindu Dharma each having a congregation of millions of people. The Sabha is a federation of religious leaders with a religious trust consisting of eleven of these leaders. These eleven trustees (with the exception of the managing trustee) are variable and hold the office for a three-year term. A new team of trustees then takes over at the end of three years. This trust is an official body of the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha and through this trust, the Acharya Sabha is engaged in various activities. The Acharya Sabha is a collective voice of the Hindus, making the Sabha an apex body of the Hindus to raise a unified voice against callous disregard of Hindu sentiments and adverse
- 7. propaganda against Hindu Dharma. We have held four annual conferences since inception. There are regional committees each with their own convener. One of the activities that Acharya Sabha is seriously engaged is in matters of religious endowments and temple governance in many States like Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh. The Sabha is also providing leadership at various levels including legal and legislative processes and in statutory changes in the manner of temple governance. It advocates temple committees comprising local temple worshipping communities for transparent and accountable management. The 4th conference took place on Jan 9-11, 2010 at Hyderabad. Some of the important accomplishments of the conference are proposal to set up of legal cells at National level and State Levels and starting an Institute of Hindu Heritage Studies and Research at SASTRA University in Tanjore, Tamilnadu. You can look at the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha web site, http://www.acharyasabha.org/ for information on all its activities and the resolutions that have been passed during the conferences. VS: Swamiji, can you tell us about the All India Movement for Seva, a unique movement initiated by you and its activities and the necessity for such a movement? Swamiji: Ours is a culture in which there is no place for competition. A child inherited the profession of its father. The competition was only how well you are able to do whatever you did and what your commitment is. Therefore it is a spiritual society. The duties called svadharma were well defined. Duties remain the same for everyone. The inner composition, disposition alone undergoes transformation. Competition means you have to follow norms. Without rules there is no competition. Whether it is a game or business, you need to follow rules. The rules have to grow upon you. The competition that we see now is thrown upon us. Therefore, people are insecure and you find the symptoms of the insecurity in terms of grabbing and hoarding and taking advantage of each situation. This is a society which is unknown to us, and now it is seen to be very rampant. Therefore, I thought we should create a new chemistry. In our culture there is such a thing as danam, sharing, caring. We are caring people. We do not throw our elders to old age homes. We have homes and we keep them with us and we respect them. Therefore, we have to emphasize some of these very important values in our own being and these values have to surface. For this a movement is necessary. You need a
- 8. movement and therefore I started this movement called, All India Movement for Seva. Then, I started doing various things in the villages. In Anaikatti, Coimbatore, where we have our Gurukulam, there are a lot of tribal villages. I did not even know that they existed, until I started looking for them. I found that there are about 100 villages all around. In these villages we began providing whatever the local people wanted, like water and so on. Then I was looking for one thing that can really initiate this movement. I asked one of the women in the village, ‘What do you expect us to do? What do you want?’ She said, ‘Please start a home for the children. We want our children to study. Now we cannot send the children to school because the school is 5 miles away. Since there are wild animals around, we cannot send the children to school. Please start a home.’ That struck me as this is what we should do. Our Chairman was Sri R. Venkataraman, ex-president of India, and he said that we will start one Chatralaya in every district — to begin with. That was the commitment with which we started. Then we started schools, hostels, hospitals and chatralayas in many States. There are 17 primary and higher secondary schools being run under AIM for Seva. They are functioning in Tamilnadu, Gujarat, Karnataka, M.P, and Madhya Pradesh. We are even administering Government schools in Gujarat. In the villages, the Government schools do not even have chairs, tables or chalk to write with. We supply them with all these and make the school function. If they do not have enough number of teachers, we give them teachers also. The school/college at Manjakkudi is a model for rural education providing quality education to the economically backward sections. Nearly 3,500 students attend schools/college daily and we provide in one campus pre-grade to post-graduation education. Both the school and the college offer co-education. Two other schools in nearby villages (Semmangudi and Mudikondan) are also managed by us. Overall, the schools and college serve the need of ~ 200 villages within a 30 km radius. By and large the student body consists of 1st generation students. We have both commuting as well as residential students. The schools and college are run with high efficiency. You would be surprised to know that there are nearly 3,500 daily commuters (students & staff) exceeding the village population of 2,500. Four school buses are run by the school to address the inadequate public transport. The Government provided free bicycles to facilitate commuting from homes. Student volunteers manage the student density during school start and end times. The facilities include a hygienic canteen and adequate toilet facilities. Over the years, there is a steady increase in the enrolment of girls in college indicating the progressive empowerment of women.
- 9. More parents are sending their children to schools and there is a greater awareness of the importance of education leading to economic well being and improved standard of living. Further, there is also an increased awareness of health, hygiene, and nutrition in families through students. The Manjakkudi schools and college are indeed a good model for replication in other similar rural areas. We are proud to inform you that our students have secured ranks at State level in different subjects and the percentage of pass is above 90%.. There are now almost 80 Chatralayas in 13 States. There are 5 hospitals located in Tamilnadu, Gujarat, U.P and Bihar. We are even running a Government hospital and it is functioning well. In Mathura there is an eye-hospital. 7 Health care centers are functioning in Tamilnadu, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra and Karnataka. Mobile Out-reach Programmes — where a mobile unit equipped with medical facilities visits the villages — are functioning in Gujarat, Tamilnadu, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka. There are Day Care Centres for children below five years. In Anaikatti alone there are 170 of them. One of our self-help groups (women) functioning in Periya Thadagam, Coimbatore has secured Manimekalai Award from the Government of Tamilnadu as best run group in the State. Bengal is the only State where we don’t have anything because they will not let us do anything there. They say give the money to us and we will do everything. We hope that we will be able to do something there also. I should also mention about Krupa, an institution for the mentally challenged that was established in 1998. The Dayananda - B.D. Goenka Seva Trust is managing the institution. Krupa was started with the aim of helping mentally challenged children to get proper care and give their parents a better quality of life. Krupa is an institution of caring. It has 25 residents currently and the aim is to increase the number gradually. Shanmuga Society for Special Children is a similar institution functioning in Hyderabad. As part of Tsunami activity, three desalination plants have been set up in Pazhaverkadu area near Chennai. We have done a lot of good work during Tsunami. Help was given to the fishermen in the form of providing boats, fishing nets and new homes and also renovating old homes. Kofi. A. Annan – the then Secretary General, UNO recognized our activities and AIM for Seva was mentioned in his report. All this has happened within these few years. So we have a good track record within a short span of a few years. I could do all this because of my disciples. I taught them only to teach Vedanta. Now I am
- 10. asking them to do this work also, but at the same time not to give up Vedanta. So they are doing all this. I have told all the acharyas of Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha that in their name I am doing all these activities of AIM for Seva. They should also do this work. Individually they are all doing now. There is a certain awareness that has been created and we need to do this work. Any movement needs to reach a critical point and from that point alone it will take off. I think we are somewhere around. The new chemistry has to come – CARING. Just to CARE. Why? Because there is no other way a person can really mature. The whole process of maturing implies the transformation from being a consumer to a contributor, even though one continues to be a consumer. The one who contributes more than what one consumes is a grown up person. Otherwise, the person is still a child. Therefore one has got to discover oneself as a contributor and that inner transformation has to take place. That is India. Giving is India. We have to therefore, emphasize this caring, programmes of caring. We should get the people involved because the problems are so enormous. Even the people who see the problems cannot do anything, because they are emotionally paralyzed. They cannot think of doing anything. Therefore we have to create an avenue for the people to pitch in. It may be small help, but when there are a lot of people pitching in, then that becomes a movement. So that’s the whole vision. All our sadhus are also engaged in this work. There are also a lot of people who are quietly doing small things individually. But all of them have to brought together in a movement. This is the movement2. VS: Swamiji, this is indeed a significant achievement. Can you say something about the Dharma Rakshana Samiti? Swamiji: The Dharma Rakshana Samiti was founded to preserve the native spiritual culture of Bharat inherited from the Rishis and to raise the awareness among Hindus of the Vaidika Dharma (a.k.a. Sanatana Dharma). This Dharma which has percolated in every aspect of our society makes all our pursuits as sacred. Our culture recognizes and respects divinity in every being and in every aspect of the creation. We have 35 full time workers all over Tamil Nadu. This number is growing and is spreading to other States. The Dharma Rakshana Samiti has been doing several things. For example, we have held 3 conferences of Guruswamis3 and honoured them. The Guruswamis inspire fellow devotees and others about the 2 Refer http://www.aimforseva.org
- 11. importance of the ayyappa-vratam and motivate them for preserving the Sanatana Dharma. The Samiti has engaged in validating, preserving, and propagating the worship of Grama Devata and Kula Devata. It reaches out to slum areas and distributes lockets, leaflets/free booklets on various topics to promote and propagate Hindu religious practices and rituals and the Vedic vision of God. In addition, the Samiti distributes clean water in the slum areas. Another important activity is called Amman Yatra. This consists of taking Angala Parameswari Amman (Goddess) on procession (cala- pratishtha) through many villages facilitating village people to offer worship in village samudayams (communities). Thirteen bronze vigrahas of the Goddess have been made to be taken to different villages and 340 villages have been covered so far4. The demand for vigrahas is increasing. VS: Swamiji, this is truly inspiring. I understand that you have started several Veda Pathasalas for the preservation of Vedas and Agamas. Can you please tell us about this? Swamiji: Several Veda Sakhas are becoming fast extinct due to lack of infrastructure for learning. Hence, we are establishing Veda Pathasalas for the preservation of the sakhas facing extinction. For example, we have a Veda Pathasala for the Maitrayani Sakha of the Krishna Yajur Veda and one for the Kanva Sakha of the Sukla Yajur Veda. Both these are at Manjakkudi. The Ranayana Sakha of the Sama Veda is a recent find and we have pathasalas at Karnataka, Vadakkupattu (near Chennai), and Coimbatore for this sakha. We have a pathasala for the Jaimini Sakha of the Sama Veda at Kodlumtarapalli (near Palghat, Kerala) and for the Pippalada Sakha of the Atharva Veda at Bangalore. At Kudavasal we have a pathasala for Vaikhanasa Agama for training priests for Vishnu temples. This Agama is Vedic and the priests often function without any training. So we started this pathasala to address that. In addition, we are trying to establish another pathasala at Maduramangalam through the Jeer matha there, for the preservation of Vaikhanasa Agama of the Vaishnavaite tradition. VS: Swamiji, please tell us about your initiatives for the preservation of Temple traditions and cultures. 3 A devotee of Lord Ayyappa who has gone to Sabarimala without a break for 18 years for the annual Makara Jyothi festival is called Guruswami. 4 Refer to www.dharmaraksha.org for the activities of Dharma Rakshana Samiti.
- 12. Swamiji: Let me first tell you about the Oduvar Project. The term Thevaram is used to denote the devotional poems sung by the three Saiva saints Appar, Sambandar, and Sundarar who lived in the 7th and 8th centuries CE. There are nearly 8000 Thevarams. These hymns, together with the ones composed by 23 other Saiva saints, have been compiled into 12 volumes known as “Panniru Thirumurai.” They constitute the canonical books of Saiva Siddhantam and they are also an essential element of ancient Tamil literature. During Raja Raja Cholan’s rule in the 11th century, Thevarams and other Thirumurais were sung in the Saiva Temples. With the loss of the royal patronage, there has been a slow decline of this extraordinary tradition with the result that many ancient temples are without the services of qualified oduvars. With a view to stop the downward slide of the ancient Saiva tradition and to revive it to its original glory, I launched an Oduvar (singer of the Thevarams) Support Program in 2005. The program consists of appointing oduvars in the Siva Temples, conducting annual festivals known as Thirumurai Thiruvizha, and honoring senior oduvars who have dedicated their lives to preserve the ancient tradition. We have honored so far 18 senior most oduvars by conferring upon them the title “Thirumurai Sevamani” and presenting each a cash reward of Rs 20,000. This recognition of the senior oduvars will become a regular feature in the future Thiruvizhas. At present, the Oduvar Project is supporting 35 oduvars who are serving in different temples in Tamilnadu. As we discover more qualified oduvars we will appoint them in all those temples which have services of oduvars. We hope to achieve our goal of have one oduvar in every ancient temple visited by one or more of the composer saints. In this connection, the 3rd Oduvar Conference was organised on June 18 and 19, 2009 in Kodavasal Konesvara Swami temple in Thiruvarur Dist of TN. The 4th conference is slated to take place in Pollachi in June 2010 under the patronage of Dr.N.Mahalingam. I have started a Thevara Pathasala in Thiruvidaimarudur and appointed a teacher who has committed all the 8000 thevarams to memory. In other areas, I have undertaken the construction of the Ashta Dik Palakas at the famous Brhadeesvarar Temple in Tanjore. Currently, these are damaged due to lack of maintenance. I have instituted daily maha-naivedyam commensurate with the size of the Siva Linga at the Brhadeesvarar Temple in Tanjore. I have arranged for the daily offering of naivedyam of ten kilo rice either as pongal or tamarind rice. After institution of proper puja and appropriate naivedyam in the temple there is an admirable increase in the number of devotees visiting the temple daily with devotion and fervor.
- 13. Another project that I have recently launched is the Thiruvidaimarudur Ther (Chariot) Project. I have recently founded a trust consisting of eminent persons of Tamilnadu with the main objective of preserving the various forms of declining fine arts of our country. These fine arts include wooden and granite sculptures, traditional painting, folk music and dance, puppetry etc. This trust, registered as Sri Mahalingaswami Seva Trust, has taken up as its first project the construction of five wooden rathas (chariots) for Sri Mahalingaswami Temple situated at Thiruvidaimarudur near the famous temple town of Kumbhakonam in Thanjavur Dist of Tamilnadu. Thiruvidaimarudur, a great Sivasthalam, is known as Madhyarjunam and is said to be on par with Benares. Sri Mahalingaswami Temple’s sprawling campus is bejeweled with lofty towers and ornate mandapams. The colossal nandi is a distinct and inspiring feature at the temple. This temple is associated with Kulotthunga Chola I, Varaguna Pandyan etc. Tiruvidaimarudur is one of the Thevara Padal Petra Sthalams and is considered to be the 30th in the series of Thevara fame temples in the Chola kingdom. Among the temple rathas of Tamilnadu, the Thiruvidaimarudur temple rathas are very famous. The main ratha of Sri Mahalingaswami is one of the biggest rathas like Thiruvarur temple ratha. Due to various reasons, all the five rathas disintegrated over time and there has been no rathotsava at the Thiruvidaimarudur temple for the past 75 years. With the gracious consent of the Gurumahasannidhanam of Thiruvavaduthurai Adheenam, the Mutt which manages this Temple, I have taken up the mammoth task of building the five rathas through this newly formed Trust. The five rathas are, respectively, for Lord Mahalingaswami, Goddess Brhat Sundarakucambika, Lord Ganesa, Lord Subrahmanya and Lord Chandikesvara. The total cost of renovation, which includes building the rathas, ratha-stations and establishing a corpus for the annual running of the rathas, is estimated to be about Rs. Six Crores. Rathotsava in our country is not only a religious celebration but it is also a social function, which brings together people from all walks of the society. It not only invokes the grace of the Lord but also generates mutual love, respect, and goodwill among different communities of our ancient land. Luckily there are still a handful of artisans who are well versed in the art of ratha construction and are living near this ancient town. The construction of the five rathas generates job opportunities for these artisans and also accomplishes the significant feat of preserving this art culture by providing a great opportunity for the artistically talented youth in the town to get trained in the fine art of wooden sculptures.
- 14. The SMS Trust has completed the construction of the ratha stations (ther mutti) and the sthapatis are now engaged in the construction of the main chariot for Sri Mahalingaswami5. The bhutappaara ritual (mounting the base of the chariot on the wheels) was completed in November 2009 and the Main Chariot is expected to be ready for the chariot festival by the end of 2010 VS: Swamiji, recently you have written about a Hindu Jewish Declaration. Can you please elaborate on it? Swamiji: We organized the first Hindu-Jewish meet in Feb 2007 at New Delhi. This was facilitated by the World Council of Religious Leaders. This was a great event as both the Hindu and Jewish traditions, which do not have aggressive programmes of conversion, advocated a way of life to accomplish the view. The point of the dialogue was to look for common cultural features and common philosophies behind the two religions while gladly accepting the differences. A joint declaration was issued acknowledging the shared value of the two traditions and for deepening the bilateral relationship predicated on the recognition of One Supreme Being. A second summit was held at Jerusalem Feb 17-20, 2008. The Government of Israel supported the Meet and the entire Rabbinate and Jewish scholars participated in the dialogue. The Hindu delegation consisted of members of the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha, including representatives of Shankaracharyas. The second meet was as extraordinary as the first one in that it emphasized and illustrated the importance of honest dialogue between any two religious traditions to resolve seemingly irresolvable differences. The Jerusalem meet concluded with a landmark declaration that Hindus worship ‘one supreme being’ and are not really idolatrous. The implications of this are profound in content and far-reaching in effect. Judaism was born of the complete repudiation of idol worship and rabbinic literature abounds with denunciations of idolatry. Due to an incomplete understanding, Hinduism has been perceived by the Jewish and other Abrahamic traditions as idolatrous and promoting many gods. For centuries, the Hindus have experienced the extremely violent consequences of this wrong perception. The historic declaration made at the Jerusalem Meet sets to rest the wrong notion that Hinduism is idolatrous. The declaration reads: “It is recognized that one Supreme Being in its formless and manifest aspects has been worshipped by Hindus over the millennia. The Hindus relate to only the one Supreme 5 Refer http://www.smstrust.org
- 15. Being when he/she prays to a particular manifestation. This does not mean that Hindus worship ‘gods’ and ‘idols.” We worship devatas who are manifestation of the one Supreme Being. The Chief Rabbi announced that it was a matter of relief to know that their hitherto held perception was wrong. I urge all the readers to read the article that I have written on the declaration6. I would also like to inform you that the 3rd Hindu-Jewish meeting was held in July 2009 in the US to carry forward the mutual understanding. VS: Swamiji, all the readers would certainly agree that this declaration is indeed a hallmark declaration showing the way for meaningful dialogue between leaders of different religious traditions and help remove wrong perceptions arising from lack of understanding and/or misunderstanding. Can you shed some light on Purna Vidya, a teaching programme of our Vedic Heritage conceived by you? The culture of the people of India is religious. This religious culture, which touches every aspect of one’s life, was imbibed by osmosis from one’s home and the immediate community. However, this is not the case anymore. We need to have a programme to teach children the religious cultural forms and their meaning methodically and in a classroom situation. With this goal in mind, we have developed the Vedic Heritage Teaching Programme for children of different age groups from grade 1 through 12. Now it is followed in more than 100 schools in Tamil Nadu and other parts of India. VS: Swamiji, this is extraordinary. Please tell us your initiatives in the preservation of arts and music. Swamiji: I established recently the Arsha Kala Rangam to promote classical Carnatic Music. We have instituted the ‘Arsha Kala Bhushanam’ award that goes with a citation and a purse for Rupees One Lakh. Arsha means ‘what came from the Rishi.’ The title means one for whom Arsha Kala is bhushanam or one who is a bhushanam for Arsha Kala. We have recognized so far thirteen senior musicians (both vocal and instrumental) with the Arsha Kala Bhushanam award. I plan to establish awards to encourage upcoming junior musicians also. I organised a Thiruppugazh conference in Nov 2008 for a day on 29th in Chennai. We honoured senior and accomplished Thiruppugazh singers Guruji Sri.A.S.Raghavan, Sri.S.Natarajan and Valaiyappettai Sri.R.Krishnan, who are propagating 6 Refer http://www.acharyasabha.org
- 16. Thiruppugazh singing. Thiruppugazh stands for devotional songs composed on Lord Subrahmanya by Saint Arunagirinathar who lived during the 15th century. VS: Swamiji, you have been participating and taking a lead role in several global initiatives for promoting harmony among religions and world peace. Please tell us about them. Swamiji: I have been participating in several other global initiatives to further the cause of peace between nations/religions. Some of these include: • Hindu-Buddhist meet in Cambodia under the auspices of the Global Peace Initiative of Woman in Feb 2009. • The fifth Global Peace Initiative of Women convened by Ms. Dena Merriam in Jaipur, India during March 2008 • The International Inter-religious Encounter, held at Monterrey, Mexico, Sept 2007 • World Youth Peace Conference, Nairobi, Kenya, 2004 • World Youth Peace Conference, Kyoto, Japan 2003 • Dharma Conference in New Jersey, July 2003 • Global Peace Initiative of Women Religious and Spiritual Leaders, Geneva, Switzerland, Oct 2002 • World Council for Preservation of Religious Diversity Bangkok, June 2002 • International Congress for the Preservation of Religious Diversity in New Delhi, 2001 (inaugurated by the then Prime Minister Sri A.B.Vajpayee and attended by the Dalai Llama among others). • Millennium World Peace Summit at the United Nations in 2000 in which I led the Hindu delegation. VS: Swamiji, tell us about the Thinkers Meet that you have been organizing. Swamiji: The Thinkers Meet is held annually and we have had many meets so far. It provides a forum for educationists, journalists, industrialists and political leaders to come together to address Hindu and National issues. The latest meet was held near Mehsana in Gujarat on July 15 and 16, 2008. The dignitaries who attended meet include the Chief Ministers of Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh and the Deputy Chief Minister of Bihar. The next meet will be held at Anaikatti in 2010.
- 17. VS: Swamiji, please tell us about the Digital Library Project. Swamiji: We have established a new digital library under the auspices of the Sruti Seva Trust at the Arsha Vidya Gurukulam, Anaikatti. The purpose of the digital library is to preserve ancient manuscripts that are on the verge of getting lost in digital format, publish texts that are not in print and provide the infrastructure for scholars to stay and do research. The digital library has digital images of palm leaf manuscripts and paper manuscripts running to around 5 to 6 lakh pages and video documentation of rituals running more than 100 hours. These have been obtained from an academic agency involved in the digitization projects since early 1980s. The collection includes texts of Saivagama, Pancaratra agama, Vaikhanasa agama, Sakta agama, Saiva, Vira Saiva, Saiva mahatmya, Saiva tantra, Kashmira Saiva, Veda samhita, Vedanga, Grhya sutra, Srauta prayoga, Mantra, Vrata, Tantra, Tantra anushtana, Yoga, Purana and Dharmasastra. We have also formed a team of scholars as part of the research council. The scholars include Sri Balakrishna Sastrigal, Sri Radhakrishna Sastrigal, Sri Krishnamurthi Sastrigal, Sri Goda Venkateswara Sastrigal, Sri Mani Dravid Sastrigal, Dr. Abhiramasundaram and Sri Kudavayil Balu. The infrastructure includes computers, scanners, printer, digital camera, high definition video camera, a good library, and facilities for researchers to stay comfortably. VS: Your recently wrote about a solution for global warming from a hitherto ignored perspective that is quite intriguing and thought provoking. Please tell us about it. Swamiji: A 2006 report from the United Nations reveals the surprising fact that “raising animals for food generates more greenhouse gases than all the cars and trucks in the world combined.” Tens of billions of animals farmed for food release gases such as methane, nitrous oxide, and carbon dioxide through their massive amounts of manure. Animals such as cows and sheep, being ruminant, emit huge amount of methane due to flatulence and burping. “The released methane,” the report says, “has 23 times the global warming potential of CO2.” It is very alarming to note that the livestock industry alone is responsible for 37% of human induced methane emissions. To make room for these animals to graze, virgin forests are cleared. The livestock industry also needs vast stretches of land to raise mono crops to feed the animals. The CO2 that the trees and plants store escape back into the air when they are destroyed. Growing fodder for
- 18. farmed animals implies heavy use of synthetic fertilizers produced with fossil fuels. While this process emits a huge amount of CO2, fertilizer itself releases nitrous oxide, a greenhouse gas that is 296 times more potent than CO2. Alarming though these facts are I see in them a reason for hope. All that people all the world over have to do is to avoid meat eating. In the absence of demand for meat, there is no more need for breeding millions of animals for daily slaughter. One of my disciples, Swamini Pramananda Saraswati has raised this topic in her addresses to the Copan Hagan NGOs Meet on Dec 10, 2009 which has caught the attention of people there. The reversal of global warming is a certainty. If it is too much for one to switch to be a total vegetarian one needs to give up at least red meat eating. This the only option one has. VS: Swamiji, please tell us about the Hague Conference in which you represented the Hindu Religion, as the convener of Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha? Swamiji: On the occasion of the celebration of the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Justitia et Pax supported by the Govt of Netherlands prepared a document reiterating the freedom of religion mentioned in the original charter of Human Rights. The representatives of the final signatories of this document met at The Hague on Oct 22, 2008 to finalise the draft document. Significant changes were made to the draft document with deletions, additions and changes. The Vatican was represented by their top Cardinal; the Archbishop of Canterbury for the Protestants; the Baptists; the Evangelists —they all come under one body—the World Council of Churches. The secretary of that body was representing them. There were two major sects in Islam – the Shiites and the Sunnis. Both were represented by two top persons from Iraq & Iran. Buddhism was represented by His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama. Then there was Rev. Master Zhi Wang Lee, Founder/President of Taoist Mission Singapore. I represented Hinduism. The final document, known as 2008 Faith in Human Rights Statement, was signed in the presence of Her Royal Majesty Queen Beatrix by all the selected religious leaders or their representatives at a ceremonial gathering in the Peace Palace in The Hague (The Netherlands) on December 10, 2008, the 60th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
- 19. Before signing the document, the nine signatories, including me, personally addressed the audience on behalf of their Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Taoist and Indigenous faith community. I said that this Statement which is going to be signed by the leaders of all religions is historic because it has all the clauses necessary for peace and harmony. Besides many other things, the Statement has recognized the importance of universal values, mutual respect and a commitment for mutual cooperation for peace and harmony. Acceptance of the universal values implies absence of double standards such as one set of values for believers (of a given religion) and another for nonbelievers (in that religion). So too, mutual respect implies acceptance of others as they are without an attempt to change them. The commitment to cooperate is very important for promoting peace and harmony. Peace is there until it is disturbed. The words and deeds of the signatories of this Statement should preserve the existing peace and harmony without disturbing it. Immediately after the speeches and signing of the document, the Statement was endorsed by a high representative of the Ecumenical Patriarch and of the Bahá’i faith. Minister of State Prof.Dr.Kooijmans performed the opening and closure of the Conference; the key-note speech was given by Ambassador Dr. Salama on behalf of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights. In his closing address the Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Verhagen, spoke of an important signal of the positive role that religions can play within the world community. It is hoped that the 2008 Faith in Human Rights Statement will initiate a wider process and will become a catalyst for transformation and change towards justice, peace, mutual respect and interfaith cooperation. The International Inter- religious Conference marked the first time ever that major world religions have jointly emphasized the importance of human rights and fundamental freedoms. VS: Swamiji, I understand that you were the convener for an International Conference on the Vedic Sarasvati River. Please elaborate on this. Swamiji: Yes, I was the Convener of International Conference on 'Vedic Sarasvati River and Hindu civilization', held during Oct. 24-26, 2008 in New Delhi. The Conference was jointly organized by Sarasvati Research Centre, AIM for Seva, Bharat Heritage Foundation, and Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha
- 20. Trust. Recent research perspectives from a number of disciplines have pointed to the importance of River Sarasvati as the fountainhead of Hindu civilization. According to many Vedic scholars, the fact that the Vedas thrived on the banks of the River Saraswati is proved by the words of the Vedas. The Conference provided a multi-disciplinary forum for researchers, to present and to review the results of their researches related to Vedic River Sarasvati and Hindu civilization to get the true story of ancient India. After this conference, a greater interest has been shown by other organisations including the Govt of Haryana to trace the origin and the route of this river and study the findings on the excavations. VS: Swamiji, Thank you very much for taking the time to tell us about the important activities you are currently engaged in. I am sure people will find this very informative and will come forward in larger numbers to support these initiatives. Now, I understand that you have initiated a dialogue between Hindu and Buddhist religious leaders. Can you please talk about it. Swamiji: Thanks to the efforts of GPIW there was a very successful meet of Hindu and Buddhist religious leaders for three days from Feb 12-1 at Phnom Penh, the capital of Cambodia. Nearly 100 Hindu and Buddhist leaders from India, Sri Lanka, Japan and Cambodia participated in the conference "Giving Global Voice to Eastern Wisdom." Coming different countries representing various sects, they had an exposure to the Hindu religious leaders for the first time. The discussions were on topics of common interest like prevention of conversion, ways and means of increasing the effective representation of these two traditions in the meets of world religions and so on. Some of the resolutions that were the outcome of this significant meeting of dialogue are: * The Hindu and Buddhist communities must stand equally with the Abrahamic family, be represented in proportionate numbers and participate equally in shaping the agenda and nature of interreligious exchange so that we can bring greater East- West balance to the world community; … * We want to express that those religions whose theologies tolerate, advocate and encourage the practice of violence (either physical, emotional or cultural) against the followers of other religions, and through institutionalized deliberate programs which destroy native cultures,
- 21. identities, and sense of cultural continuity and respect for ancestral heritage to be adharmic; … * We declare that mutual respect among religions is a must to promote harmony among them. I have initiated a larger global conference of Hindu-Buddhist religious leaders in 2010 for dialogue and mutual understanding so that these two non-aggressive religions can work together closely for betterment of peace in the world. In addition to this, I have also initiated dialogue with Russian Orthodox Church Leaders this year which will lead to significant contribution to world peace. Pranams Swamiji. ....