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Optimizing Visibility for AI
and Emerging Platforms
Master Class
MASTER
CLASS
Steve Wiideman
CEO
WIIDEMAN CONSULTING GROUP
SAN DIEGO, CA ~ MAY 8 - 9, 2025
DIGIMARCONSOUTHERNCALIFORNIA.COM | #DigiMarConSouthernCalifornia
Optimizing for AI and emerging platforms
STEVE WIIDEMAN
In 30 Seconds
• Practicing SEO since 1998
• Former SEM Manager for Disney Parks & Resorts
• Adjunct Professor, UCSD & CSUF
• Co-Author of SEO: Strategy & Skills (via Stukent)
• CEO & Sr. Search Strategist @ Wiideman
Objectives
• Manage SEO imposter syndrome
• Discover tools to help streamline SEO
• Adapt to the shift in search behaviors
• Learn how to improve visibility in LLMs
• Get tips on appearing in all search features
Got Imposter Syndrome?
SEO isn’t changing, the way people search is.
Remember When…
In the past, we only needed to focus on Google:
• Search
• Click
• Purchase
• Done!
Predictable Search
Behavior.
The Results
Have Changed
A Search
Result in 2025
MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
+Voice Search
Hey Google, Alexa, Siri, Mr. Wizard
Voice Search Stats
United States Usage: # of
U.S. users were projected to
reach 153.5 million by 2025.
Voice Search Queries: Voice
searches are projected to
account for over 50% of all
internet queries by 2025.
Conversational Queries: 80%
of voice searches are expected
to be conversational.
Local Intent: 58% of voice
searches are for local business
information.
The Journey
Has Changed
Attribution & SEO
MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
Our customers are still Googling. Only
today, they are also checking with AI tools,
social media, and content discovery as part
of their consumer journeys.
We can continue to earn traffic from
Google. However, addressing other points
on the journey can drive return visits
resulting in increased sales and customers.
ChatGPT Search
Search tools using ChatGPT and OpenAI's
search functionality are powered by Bing,
which means common best practices for SEO
remain as relevant as ever.
In March 2025, Bing/Copilot confirmed its
use of schema markup for its LLMs.
However, when the search functionality is not
triggered, sources and citations have been
providing clues as to what can influence the
answers generated by LLMs.
Perplexity Search
While other models, such as Sonar
and even DeepSeek are available in
Perplexity, it appears to prefer
OpenAI and ChatGPT, specifically
GPT-4.1 and o4-mini as of May of
2025.
In other words, optimizing for Bing
can affect ChatGPT, which in turn can
affect Perplexity search results.
SIX OF ONE, HALF DOZEN OF THE OTHER
Content Discovery
Data shows that high engagement
with Google Discover listings may
increase rankings in web search
results.
Optimizing for Google Discover
only requires timely posting,
Article schema, 1200px primary
imagery, and a mobile-friendly
user experience.
Searching without Keywords
But SEO Has Not Changed
Clickable Results
Your Website
Great Content Potential Links
Google’s Reign of Search
SEARCH PRE-2025
Enter the Era of AI Search
SEARCH 2025
Enter Emerging Platforms Within Search
SEARCH 2025
Business listings (do citations still matter?)
Google Still Dominates Search
1%-3%
With only a slight decline due to
Competition and ai alternatives.
Estimate Search Marketing Share
Only Declined
12.5%
Boosted by Microsoft’s AI Integration
And Strategic Alliances.
Modest Growth 2024 Vs 2025
Was a Modest
Bing Survives Thanks to CoPilot & OpenAI
70%
ChatGPT Is Not Replacing Google
Despite Incredible Growth
In Usage as High as
Estimated Search Market Share
Projections are ~1% in 2025
1.66m
Searches
in March 2025 and 550k Searches
For “ChatGPT Login”.
People are Googling ChatGPT
The Number of Searches for “ChatGPT”
in Google was
So What?
The Point Here is…
SEO Is Not Changing,
How People Search Is
How Can We Streamline SEO Using AI?
Uncover CRM
mismatches
Discover new
opportunities
Invent creative
automations
Invent Creative Automation Using AI
Technical SEO:
• Crawlability & Indexability Audits
• Site Architecture Audits (Hierarchy Depth, Navigation, URL Structure)
• Internal Linking Audit (4XX Pages, Orphan Pages, Link Equity)
• HTTP Status Code Audit
• Canonicalization and Hreflang
• Structured Data Audit
• Log File Analysis
Determine What Can Use AI (And What Can’t)
Strategy Keyword Research Outline/Brief Draft Editing Publish & Measure
Establish the timeline
Build the roadmap
Prioritize lower-
funnel
Address upper-funnel
Innovation/AI
Competitive Analysis
Audience Analysis
Process Management
Entity extraction
Topic extraction
GSC URL analysis
Ads search terms
3rd-party data
Segment by intent
Media research
FAQ Research
Competitors & intent
Keyword
prioritization
Title and meta writing
Twitter & OG cards
Heading/H1 writing
TOC & jump links
Tables & lists
Image suggestions
FAQs (6-10)
Video Suggestions
Follow brand guide
Inspired by research
Influenced by data
Include all topics
Includes keywords
Verified as "best"
Editor:
Verified brand guide
Verified keywords
Verified topics
Spelling & grammar
SEO Strategist:
No over-optimization
Verified keyword use
In-linking, out-linking
Request indexing
XML sitemap updated
Keywords-SEMRush
Annotation created
Checked Off in Mon
Added to Mo. Report
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
Follow the steps below to help me create an SEO brief
and content outline for a webpage intended to rank for
the keyword “{your keyword}.”
1. Extract the copywriting intents, primary and secondary
topics, and keywords from the following 10 competitor
URLs,
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
2. Use the attached search term lists from Google Ads and
Search Console for the corresponding URL on the website,
using logic based on CTR and conversion rate,
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
3. Add the following 20 keywords I extracted from SEMRush’s
non-branded keyword insights for the competitors’ URLs,
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
4. Combine the lists, remove duplicates, and give me a page
outline that prioritizes the top-converting search terms.
Include a 375-character summary paragraph that is
optimized for LLMs and Google Featured Snippets.
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
5. Include 6 FAQs not already answered in the primary
outline, along with 3 image and 1 video suggestion
for greater visibility in universal search results.
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
6. Output the SEO brief in table format, including the page
outline, along with a recommended HTML page title, meta
description, Table of Content, and at least 5 government
resources for the writer to capture data (and for search
engines to fact-check our statements).
Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO
Dear Writer,
Please use this outline and the
following external resources to help
write a page of content to attract
potential customers. Be sure to ask
the company expert for all the first-
hand experience you can get!
Love,
Your SEO Strategist
You Down with GPT?
GPT Name: Schema Expert
What would like it to create?
I’d like to create a Structured Markup
Expert, starting by loading up 100
documents on schema.
Ready for the first document?
Give me the appropriate schema for
this URL: {your_url_here}
Sure, here is the suggested schema in
copy/paste format, double-checked
against validator.schema.org, and
optimized for maximum Knowledge
Graph and Rich Results.
A Beginner’s Guide to Tracking Multi-Channel
And Emerging Platforms
DESTINATION WHERE TO MEASURE WHAT TO MEASURE HOW OFTEN
SeachGPT Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly
Perplexity Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly
Facebook
Facebook Business
Suite
FB/IG Reach Monthly
TikTok Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly
Adapting to the
Shift in Search
Behavior
Because SEO Is Not Changing…
THINK BEYOND
GOOGLE ALONE
MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
Let’s Have Every Page Represented
PAGE REDDIT QUORA YOUTUBE SOCIAL MEDIA
ESPRESSOS    
CAPPUCCINOS    
PASTRIES    
BREAKFAST    
PLACE TO STUDY    
Deploy Your Tribe!
Hello, Coffee Connoisseur!
Love our java? Brew up some buzz and earn a free
drip coffee on us!
Simply share why we’re the “best coffee shop in
San Diego” on your favorite review sites—Reddit,
Yelp, Google Maps, TripAdvisor, Quora, or
anywhere you chat about great coffee.
Show us your post (a screenshot or link) at the
counter, and we’ll pour you a complimentary drip.
Thanks for keeping our beans buzzing!
— Your Barista
How to
Improve
Visibility in
LLMs
Because SEO Is Not
Changing…
The Art of Prompt-Optimization for SEO
Finally, We Get to Simplify Our Content!
Before:
If you are looking for delicious
coffees, visit our location in
Downtown San Diego. You’ll
love our selection of drinks and
friendly staff.
[Insert ChatGPT content here.]
Blah, blah, blah…
After:
Orca Coffee is the best
coffee shop in San Diego
according to recent customer
reviews. See what our
customers are saying below.
Think Like an AI User!
Before:
We proudly offer a large menu of
food items, including pastries.
View our PDF menu for the
current selection of items offered
this week. We know you’ll love
our delicious selection!
[Insert ChatGPT content here.]
Blah, blah, blah…
After:
Who Offers Pastries in San Diego?
Orca Coffee offers pastries in San
Diego that our customers and even
the local news can’t stop talking
about. View our pastry menu below.
Want a Pro Tip?
Prompt:
Help me optimize the pasted text from my webpage
below to be LLM-optimized based on how people
search ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and Claude.
Explain your suggestions.
Pro Tip
Prompt:
Give me a list of potential prompts my target
audience might use to find our business in LLMs
such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, Claude, etc.
OPTIMIZING FOR
BLENDED SERPS
The Current
Google SERP
A Search
Result in 2025
MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
AI & Social Search
TikTok Search
For businesses to appear in TikTok, they
need a verified Google Business Profile
(Google Maps).
For a businesses to rank well in TikTok,
they need to post as the business, have
others mention and tag the business, and
have a pattern of active engagement that
corresponds to the business profile.
Reddit & Forums
To diversify search results beyond the blue
link and black text, Google formed
partnerships with Reddit and other forum
and discussion platforms.
Optimizing for Reddit, Medium, and
Substack requires a thought-through
strategy based on competitive analysis and
company storytelling.
It also requires a content calendar
and audience-building, as with
most social platforms.
Measuring Success
Attribution is just the beginning as it
relates to measuring the performance
of a multi-channel SEO campaign.
Optimization of each channel while
maintaining consistency of the
narrative, storytelling, and branding is
an ongoing process.
How did you find us?
Feature Instances Position
AI Overviews 1 of 5 2 of 5
Map Packs 1 of 3 1 of 3
Web Results 1 of 7 3 of 7
People Also Ask 1 of 3 2 of 3
Forums and Discussions 0 of 3 0 of 3
What People are Saying 0 of 3 0 of 3
Nearby Offers 1 of 3 1 of 3
65.6% Total Weighted Score 71% 59.7%
Measuring Success
Attribution is just the beginning as
it relates to measuring the
performance of a multi-channel
SEO campaign.
Optimization of each channel while
maintaining consistency of the
narrative, storytelling, and branding
is an ongoing process.
How did you find us?
Platform
Owned
Content
Earned
Content
Site
Visits
Online
Revenue
% Change
ChatGPT 23 14 3,200 $7,680 10% MoM
Perplexity 16 9 1,900 $4,560 10% MoM
Gemini 12 5 750 $1,800 10% MoM
TikTok 22 112 3,600 $8,640 10% MoM
Reddit 21 87 2,200 $5,280 10% MoM
Instagram 14 94 2,600 $6,240 10% MoM
Discover 4 16 1,900 $4,560 10% MoM
My Favorite SEO Tools
• Basics: Ryte, Wincher, SEMRush, AHREFS, Chrome Dev Tools,
Monday.com (not for SEO)
• AI Tools: GPT for Sheets, GPT Summarize, Perplexity
(AI+Search), Custom GPTs, Meta.ai
• Content Optimization: SERPrecon, Surfer SEO, SearchAtlas,
and MarketBrew
Thank You!
Steve Wiideman
steve@wideman.com – Email Me for Templates!
949-943-4398
SEO Is Not Changing…..
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Optimizing Visibility for AI and Emerging Platforms Master Class - Steve Wiideman, Wiideman Consulting Group

  • 1. Optimizing Visibility for AI and Emerging Platforms Master Class MASTER CLASS Steve Wiideman CEO WIIDEMAN CONSULTING GROUP SAN DIEGO, CA ~ MAY 8 - 9, 2025 DIGIMARCONSOUTHERNCALIFORNIA.COM | #DigiMarConSouthernCalifornia
  • 2. Optimizing for AI and emerging platforms
  • 3. STEVE WIIDEMAN In 30 Seconds • Practicing SEO since 1998 • Former SEM Manager for Disney Parks & Resorts • Adjunct Professor, UCSD & CSUF • Co-Author of SEO: Strategy & Skills (via Stukent) • CEO & Sr. Search Strategist @ Wiideman
  • 4. Objectives • Manage SEO imposter syndrome • Discover tools to help streamline SEO • Adapt to the shift in search behaviors • Learn how to improve visibility in LLMs • Get tips on appearing in all search features
  • 5. Got Imposter Syndrome? SEO isn’t changing, the way people search is.
  • 6. Remember When… In the past, we only needed to focus on Google: • Search • Click • Purchase • Done! Predictable Search Behavior.
  • 7. The Results Have Changed A Search Result in 2025 MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
  • 8. +Voice Search Hey Google, Alexa, Siri, Mr. Wizard
  • 9. Voice Search Stats United States Usage: # of U.S. users were projected to reach 153.5 million by 2025. Voice Search Queries: Voice searches are projected to account for over 50% of all internet queries by 2025. Conversational Queries: 80% of voice searches are expected to be conversational. Local Intent: 58% of voice searches are for local business information.
  • 10. The Journey Has Changed Attribution & SEO MULTI-CHANNEL SEO Our customers are still Googling. Only today, they are also checking with AI tools, social media, and content discovery as part of their consumer journeys. We can continue to earn traffic from Google. However, addressing other points on the journey can drive return visits resulting in increased sales and customers.
  • 11. ChatGPT Search Search tools using ChatGPT and OpenAI's search functionality are powered by Bing, which means common best practices for SEO remain as relevant as ever. In March 2025, Bing/Copilot confirmed its use of schema markup for its LLMs. However, when the search functionality is not triggered, sources and citations have been providing clues as to what can influence the answers generated by LLMs.
  • 12. Perplexity Search While other models, such as Sonar and even DeepSeek are available in Perplexity, it appears to prefer OpenAI and ChatGPT, specifically GPT-4.1 and o4-mini as of May of 2025. In other words, optimizing for Bing can affect ChatGPT, which in turn can affect Perplexity search results.
  • 13. SIX OF ONE, HALF DOZEN OF THE OTHER
  • 14. Content Discovery Data shows that high engagement with Google Discover listings may increase rankings in web search results. Optimizing for Google Discover only requires timely posting, Article schema, 1200px primary imagery, and a mobile-friendly user experience. Searching without Keywords
  • 15. But SEO Has Not Changed Clickable Results Your Website Great Content Potential Links
  • 16. Google’s Reign of Search SEARCH PRE-2025
  • 17. Enter the Era of AI Search SEARCH 2025
  • 18. Enter Emerging Platforms Within Search SEARCH 2025
  • 19. Business listings (do citations still matter?) Google Still Dominates Search 1%-3% With only a slight decline due to Competition and ai alternatives. Estimate Search Marketing Share Only Declined
  • 20. 12.5% Boosted by Microsoft’s AI Integration And Strategic Alliances. Modest Growth 2024 Vs 2025 Was a Modest Bing Survives Thanks to CoPilot & OpenAI
  • 21. 70% ChatGPT Is Not Replacing Google Despite Incredible Growth In Usage as High as Estimated Search Market Share Projections are ~1% in 2025
  • 22. 1.66m Searches in March 2025 and 550k Searches For “ChatGPT Login”. People are Googling ChatGPT The Number of Searches for “ChatGPT” in Google was
  • 24. The Point Here is… SEO Is Not Changing, How People Search Is
  • 25. How Can We Streamline SEO Using AI? Uncover CRM mismatches Discover new opportunities Invent creative automations
  • 26. Invent Creative Automation Using AI Technical SEO: • Crawlability & Indexability Audits • Site Architecture Audits (Hierarchy Depth, Navigation, URL Structure) • Internal Linking Audit (4XX Pages, Orphan Pages, Link Equity) • HTTP Status Code Audit • Canonicalization and Hreflang • Structured Data Audit • Log File Analysis
  • 27. Determine What Can Use AI (And What Can’t) Strategy Keyword Research Outline/Brief Draft Editing Publish & Measure Establish the timeline Build the roadmap Prioritize lower- funnel Address upper-funnel Innovation/AI Competitive Analysis Audience Analysis Process Management Entity extraction Topic extraction GSC URL analysis Ads search terms 3rd-party data Segment by intent Media research FAQ Research Competitors & intent Keyword prioritization Title and meta writing Twitter & OG cards Heading/H1 writing TOC & jump links Tables & lists Image suggestions FAQs (6-10) Video Suggestions Follow brand guide Inspired by research Influenced by data Include all topics Includes keywords Verified as "best" Editor: Verified brand guide Verified keywords Verified topics Spelling & grammar SEO Strategist: No over-optimization Verified keyword use In-linking, out-linking Request indexing XML sitemap updated Keywords-SEMRush Annotation created Checked Off in Mon Added to Mo. Report
  • 28. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO Follow the steps below to help me create an SEO brief and content outline for a webpage intended to rank for the keyword “{your keyword}.” 1. Extract the copywriting intents, primary and secondary topics, and keywords from the following 10 competitor URLs,
  • 29. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO 2. Use the attached search term lists from Google Ads and Search Console for the corresponding URL on the website, using logic based on CTR and conversion rate,
  • 30. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO 3. Add the following 20 keywords I extracted from SEMRush’s non-branded keyword insights for the competitors’ URLs,
  • 31. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO 4. Combine the lists, remove duplicates, and give me a page outline that prioritizes the top-converting search terms. Include a 375-character summary paragraph that is optimized for LLMs and Google Featured Snippets.
  • 32. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO 5. Include 6 FAQs not already answered in the primary outline, along with 3 image and 1 video suggestion for greater visibility in universal search results.
  • 33. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO 6. Output the SEO brief in table format, including the page outline, along with a recommended HTML page title, meta description, Table of Content, and at least 5 government resources for the writer to capture data (and for search engines to fact-check our statements).
  • 34. Inspiration for Prompts to Help With SEO Dear Writer, Please use this outline and the following external resources to help write a page of content to attract potential customers. Be sure to ask the company expert for all the first- hand experience you can get! Love, Your SEO Strategist
  • 35. You Down with GPT? GPT Name: Schema Expert What would like it to create? I’d like to create a Structured Markup Expert, starting by loading up 100 documents on schema. Ready for the first document? Give me the appropriate schema for this URL: {your_url_here} Sure, here is the suggested schema in copy/paste format, double-checked against validator.schema.org, and optimized for maximum Knowledge Graph and Rich Results.
  • 36. A Beginner’s Guide to Tracking Multi-Channel And Emerging Platforms DESTINATION WHERE TO MEASURE WHAT TO MEASURE HOW OFTEN SeachGPT Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly Perplexity Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly Facebook Facebook Business Suite FB/IG Reach Monthly TikTok Manual / TBD Position & Frequency Weekly
  • 37. Adapting to the Shift in Search Behavior Because SEO Is Not Changing…
  • 39. Let’s Have Every Page Represented PAGE REDDIT QUORA YOUTUBE SOCIAL MEDIA ESPRESSOS     CAPPUCCINOS     PASTRIES     BREAKFAST     PLACE TO STUDY    
  • 40. Deploy Your Tribe! Hello, Coffee Connoisseur! Love our java? Brew up some buzz and earn a free drip coffee on us! Simply share why we’re the “best coffee shop in San Diego” on your favorite review sites—Reddit, Yelp, Google Maps, TripAdvisor, Quora, or anywhere you chat about great coffee. Show us your post (a screenshot or link) at the counter, and we’ll pour you a complimentary drip. Thanks for keeping our beans buzzing! — Your Barista
  • 42. The Art of Prompt-Optimization for SEO
  • 43. Finally, We Get to Simplify Our Content! Before: If you are looking for delicious coffees, visit our location in Downtown San Diego. You’ll love our selection of drinks and friendly staff. [Insert ChatGPT content here.] Blah, blah, blah… After: Orca Coffee is the best coffee shop in San Diego according to recent customer reviews. See what our customers are saying below.
  • 44. Think Like an AI User! Before: We proudly offer a large menu of food items, including pastries. View our PDF menu for the current selection of items offered this week. We know you’ll love our delicious selection! [Insert ChatGPT content here.] Blah, blah, blah… After: Who Offers Pastries in San Diego? Orca Coffee offers pastries in San Diego that our customers and even the local news can’t stop talking about. View our pastry menu below.
  • 45. Want a Pro Tip? Prompt: Help me optimize the pasted text from my webpage below to be LLM-optimized based on how people search ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and Claude. Explain your suggestions.
  • 46. Pro Tip Prompt: Give me a list of potential prompts my target audience might use to find our business in LLMs such as ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, Claude, etc.
  • 48. The Current Google SERP A Search Result in 2025 MULTI-CHANNEL SEO
  • 49. AI & Social Search
  • 50. TikTok Search For businesses to appear in TikTok, they need a verified Google Business Profile (Google Maps). For a businesses to rank well in TikTok, they need to post as the business, have others mention and tag the business, and have a pattern of active engagement that corresponds to the business profile.
  • 51. Reddit & Forums To diversify search results beyond the blue link and black text, Google formed partnerships with Reddit and other forum and discussion platforms. Optimizing for Reddit, Medium, and Substack requires a thought-through strategy based on competitive analysis and company storytelling. It also requires a content calendar and audience-building, as with most social platforms.
  • 52. Measuring Success Attribution is just the beginning as it relates to measuring the performance of a multi-channel SEO campaign. Optimization of each channel while maintaining consistency of the narrative, storytelling, and branding is an ongoing process. How did you find us? Feature Instances Position AI Overviews 1 of 5 2 of 5 Map Packs 1 of 3 1 of 3 Web Results 1 of 7 3 of 7 People Also Ask 1 of 3 2 of 3 Forums and Discussions 0 of 3 0 of 3 What People are Saying 0 of 3 0 of 3 Nearby Offers 1 of 3 1 of 3 65.6% Total Weighted Score 71% 59.7%
  • 53. Measuring Success Attribution is just the beginning as it relates to measuring the performance of a multi-channel SEO campaign. Optimization of each channel while maintaining consistency of the narrative, storytelling, and branding is an ongoing process. How did you find us? Platform Owned Content Earned Content Site Visits Online Revenue % Change ChatGPT 23 14 3,200 $7,680 10% MoM Perplexity 16 9 1,900 $4,560 10% MoM Gemini 12 5 750 $1,800 10% MoM TikTok 22 112 3,600 $8,640 10% MoM Reddit 21 87 2,200 $5,280 10% MoM Instagram 14 94 2,600 $6,240 10% MoM Discover 4 16 1,900 $4,560 10% MoM
  • 54. My Favorite SEO Tools • Basics: Ryte, Wincher, SEMRush, AHREFS, Chrome Dev Tools, Monday.com (not for SEO) • AI Tools: GPT for Sheets, GPT Summarize, Perplexity (AI+Search), Custom GPTs, Meta.ai • Content Optimization: SERPrecon, Surfer SEO, SearchAtlas, and MarketBrew
  • 55. Thank You! Steve Wiideman steve@wideman.com – Email Me for Templates! 949-943-4398 SEO Is Not Changing…..