Elliott Wave
From textbook to trading floor
Robin Wilkin
Doubts, misunderstandings and a few tips…
Elliott Wave is too subjective
Analysts show too many alternative scenarios, or flip views aggressively
Only good in hindsight – NOT if used properly
DON’T try to be clever, manufacturing wave counts
DON’T break the rules
Be very careful and wary of micro intra-day wave counting
Be very careful if you are just looking at one market in isolation
Not sure if a 5 wave move is complete, try counting it backwards
Remember technical analysis is a tool for making money in the markets
“If you don’t know where you are going ,
you’ll probably end up somewhere else”
Lawrence J Peter
EW provides me with a roadmap of the global market
jigsaw…
Allowing me to assess probable outcomes by determining
the current position within the larger structure
Fixed Inc.
Equities
Commodities
FX
I believe the key to successful application of Elliott
wave is…
FILTERING
Why you need to filter…
Near identical structures for 2 bond markets
We now know the outcome…
What will you use to filter around Elliott Wave?
Day Trader Long Term
Investor
Swing Trader
Hedger
Fundamentals
Other Technical’s
TOP DOWN
The big picture themes
Which markets best express that view
BOTTOM UP
Does the wave count make sense !!!!!
The Structure of the Wave Pattern
1
2
3
4
5
1
a
b
c
2
1
2
3
4
5
3
a
b
c
4
1
2
3
4
5
5
1
1
2
3
4
5
A
a
b
c
B
1
2
3
4
5
C
2
1
2
3
5
A
B
C
4
The 3 Main Rules of Elliott Wave
Wave 2 CANNOT retrace past the wave 1 low or high.
Wave 3 is NEVER be the shortest (except in a diagonal)
Wave 4 NEVER overlaps the top of wave 1
The basic correction patterns…
1
2
3
4
5
A
a
b
c
B
1
2
3
4
5
C
ABC Zig Zag
A
B
C
Regular Flat
or
Irregular Flat is when wave B
makes a marginal and failed
new low/high
a
b
c
d
e
Triangle
Trading with Elliott Wave
Initial 5 wave rally
ideally breaks the
sequence of lower
highs
First buy opportunity occurs with a
pullback developing a higher low
Reduce positions as
wave 3 completes
4th wave typically retraces around
38% of wave 3 - provides 3rd
buying opportunity
Exit longs and maybe look to initiate
shorts
Depending on how wave
A develops determines
where wave B fails
Wave C targets at
least the previous 4th
wave lows, which is
often between 38%
and 50% of the 5
wave move
Aggressively add/go long
1
2
3
4
5
a
b
c
“You can observe a lot just by watching”
Yogi Berra
A few quick examples…
Irregular Flat Correction
Triangles…
NOTE : The RSI NEVER
got back below the magic
over sold level at 20!!
POSITIONING was the key to
suggesting the triangle wasn’t
over.
Risk/Reversals
IMM/Flow of Funds
Mutations… extending corrections
Outside of critical Elliott Wave levels I am
very wary of using absolute specific support
and resistance levels.
I watch Fibonacci cluster zones, channels,
previous congestion zones and then provide
slippage room around those levels…
A couple of walk-throughs…
An example of what happens when you’re
lazy…
USDINR 1month fwd…
ELECTION RESULT AS EXPECTED,
ALL GOOD NEWS PRICED IN
Sugar… reversal + triangle targeting 21-24. Food
inflation
* POSSIBLE EL NINO
*BELOW AVG RAINS =
SHORT FALL IN SUGAR
Sugar cont’d…
IGNORED POSITIONING !!
What about USDINR?
A Case study – The AUDUSD
AUDUSD – Monthly into July 2011…
A
B
C
iv
V
Iii
ii
i
1.1025 = 61.8% Fib of the entire decline from
the 1974 highs around 1.4850
Copper – topped weeks before, as had Iron Ore
Copper Vs AUDUSD - Correlation
Baltic Dry Freight remained soft…
AUDNZD – Major reversal from key highs
What was the USD doing in general?
How to trade it off the top…
3month Vol was back to range lows…
Managing the short term swings…
A
B
C
i
ii
iii
Iv
v
i
i
ii
iii
iv
v
A
B
C
Stopped
out Re-entered
A 5th wave projection method I am mindful of…
The next phase…
Markets are always changing…..
Markets are always the same
“The world has changed and has always been changing. One of the
things I write about in my books is, no matter what you think is true
today, it’s not going to be the case in 15 years. You pick any time in
history, 1900, 1915 and look at what everybody thought was the way
the world is. Fifteen years later enormous changes had taken place all
over the world in society, in politics, in wars, economics, everything.”
Jim Rogers
An analogy of Elliott Wave:
You can learn the right notes to play a piece
of music on the piano, but only a few can play
it well enough for people to pay to hear.
There is a rhythm and a harmony a
proportion and balance in the movement of
the markets and some people are just “wave
deaf”, or can at least be “wave handicapped”.
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Robin -Wilkin share market Smc technical

  • 1. Elliott Wave From textbook to trading floor Robin Wilkin
  • 2. Doubts, misunderstandings and a few tips… Elliott Wave is too subjective Analysts show too many alternative scenarios, or flip views aggressively Only good in hindsight – NOT if used properly DON’T try to be clever, manufacturing wave counts DON’T break the rules Be very careful and wary of micro intra-day wave counting Be very careful if you are just looking at one market in isolation Not sure if a 5 wave move is complete, try counting it backwards Remember technical analysis is a tool for making money in the markets
  • 3. “If you don’t know where you are going , you’ll probably end up somewhere else” Lawrence J Peter
  • 4. EW provides me with a roadmap of the global market jigsaw… Allowing me to assess probable outcomes by determining the current position within the larger structure Fixed Inc. Equities Commodities FX
  • 5. I believe the key to successful application of Elliott wave is… FILTERING
  • 6. Why you need to filter… Near identical structures for 2 bond markets
  • 7. We now know the outcome…
  • 8. What will you use to filter around Elliott Wave? Day Trader Long Term Investor Swing Trader Hedger Fundamentals Other Technical’s
  • 9. TOP DOWN The big picture themes Which markets best express that view BOTTOM UP
  • 10. Does the wave count make sense !!!!!
  • 11. The Structure of the Wave Pattern 1 2 3 4 5 1 a b c 2 1 2 3 4 5 3 a b c 4 1 2 3 4 5 5 1 1 2 3 4 5 A a b c B 1 2 3 4 5 C 2
  • 13. The 3 Main Rules of Elliott Wave Wave 2 CANNOT retrace past the wave 1 low or high. Wave 3 is NEVER be the shortest (except in a diagonal) Wave 4 NEVER overlaps the top of wave 1
  • 14. The basic correction patterns… 1 2 3 4 5 A a b c B 1 2 3 4 5 C ABC Zig Zag A B C Regular Flat or Irregular Flat is when wave B makes a marginal and failed new low/high a b c d e Triangle
  • 15. Trading with Elliott Wave Initial 5 wave rally ideally breaks the sequence of lower highs First buy opportunity occurs with a pullback developing a higher low Reduce positions as wave 3 completes 4th wave typically retraces around 38% of wave 3 - provides 3rd buying opportunity Exit longs and maybe look to initiate shorts Depending on how wave A develops determines where wave B fails Wave C targets at least the previous 4th wave lows, which is often between 38% and 50% of the 5 wave move Aggressively add/go long 1 2 3 4 5 a b c
  • 16. “You can observe a lot just by watching” Yogi Berra
  • 17. A few quick examples…
  • 19. Triangles… NOTE : The RSI NEVER got back below the magic over sold level at 20!! POSITIONING was the key to suggesting the triangle wasn’t over. Risk/Reversals IMM/Flow of Funds
  • 21. Outside of critical Elliott Wave levels I am very wary of using absolute specific support and resistance levels. I watch Fibonacci cluster zones, channels, previous congestion zones and then provide slippage room around those levels…
  • 22. A couple of walk-throughs…
  • 23. An example of what happens when you’re lazy…
  • 24. USDINR 1month fwd… ELECTION RESULT AS EXPECTED, ALL GOOD NEWS PRICED IN
  • 25. Sugar… reversal + triangle targeting 21-24. Food inflation * POSSIBLE EL NINO *BELOW AVG RAINS = SHORT FALL IN SUGAR
  • 28. A Case study – The AUDUSD
  • 29. AUDUSD – Monthly into July 2011… A B C iv V Iii ii i 1.1025 = 61.8% Fib of the entire decline from the 1974 highs around 1.4850
  • 30. Copper – topped weeks before, as had Iron Ore
  • 31. Copper Vs AUDUSD - Correlation
  • 32. Baltic Dry Freight remained soft…
  • 33. AUDNZD – Major reversal from key highs
  • 34. What was the USD doing in general?
  • 35. How to trade it off the top…
  • 36. 3month Vol was back to range lows…
  • 37. Managing the short term swings… A B C i ii iii Iv v i i ii iii iv v A B C Stopped out Re-entered
  • 38. A 5th wave projection method I am mindful of…
  • 40. Markets are always changing….. Markets are always the same “The world has changed and has always been changing. One of the things I write about in my books is, no matter what you think is true today, it’s not going to be the case in 15 years. You pick any time in history, 1900, 1915 and look at what everybody thought was the way the world is. Fifteen years later enormous changes had taken place all over the world in society, in politics, in wars, economics, everything.” Jim Rogers
  • 41. An analogy of Elliott Wave: You can learn the right notes to play a piece of music on the piano, but only a few can play it well enough for people to pay to hear. There is a rhythm and a harmony a proportion and balance in the movement of the markets and some people are just “wave deaf”, or can at least be “wave handicapped”.