2-7 faith and reason
faith and reason is faith compatible with reason? are faith and reason antagonistic? are they simply different ways of attaining knowledge within different domains?
pragmatic faith pascal’s wager finite gain infinite loss and finite gain i do not believe finite loss infinite gain and finite loss i believe God does not exist God exists
problems for pascal belief has moral ramifications one has a moral duty to not only act in a certain way but also to believe in a certain way.  this is because belief has the function of guiding actions such that if one fails to believe properly then one fails to act properly in which god do i believe?  that is, lacking proper evidence for the existence of the god of some particular religion, how would I go about choosing in which god to believe?  is it really as simple as merely having two choices? there seems to be something impious, or at least improper, in presenting faith in such a way:  “that when religious faith expresses itself thus, in the language of the gaming-table, it is put to its last trumps.” (william james) is this, then, genuine faith? does presume to know God in some way, namely knows that God will only grant happiness to those who have faith  is it really the case that reason can provide no help in deciding whether or not God exists? some further argument must be made to demonstrate that this is the case
willing to believe faith has the ability to be self-authenticating a runner believing he will win a race, even without evidence, helps provide the impetus for doing just that (because, again, belief has the function of guiding action) does this work with God?  is our belief self-authenticating in that it make it more likely that God will exist? looking at clifford’s example of the ship owner and the ship, does faith in any way authenticate the safety of the ship? can one even do such a thing as “willing” a certain kind of belief in this strong volitional sense?
fideism “ the exclusive or basic reliance upon faith alone, accompanied by a consequent disparagement of reason and utilized especially in the pursuit of philosophical or religious truth."  (alvin plantinga) often holds that reason has been corrupted by sin and The Fall; as such, revelation has dominance two versions faith operates in a domain where reason has no power; in religious domain faith is above reason faith and reason are in conflict such that any attempt to use reason in spiritual matters is bound to result in absurdity though it is not necessary to hold both positions, it is possible to do so
faith is above reason genuine faith appears when reason reaches its end ([p], 124) basing one’s faith in reason results in faith being increased or diminished depending on the information available at one time.  in such a case, one’s faith could even be destroyed by some new piece of evidence. but if evidence does not matter here, why does it matter elsewhere?  why is it that God’s existence is so radically different from the chair’s?
compatibility of faith and reason reformed epistemology stands in contrast to traditional foundationalism holds that all propositions must be basic or grounded in in other basic propositions to be basic is to be:  1) self-evident; 2) incorrigible; 3) evident to the senses third premise is often not a part of a foundational account of knowledge; we can be wrong about what we sense holds that propositions can be considered properly basic because of their position in a person’s noetic structure
issues with reformed epistemology regardless of whether or not some proposition is central in one’s noetic structure does not remove its possibility for change are we not obligated to consider the arguments of our peers before declaring certainty? what prevents us from asserting some other belief as serving as central to, and, as such, foundational for, our noetic structure?  in other words, how does this actually justify our belief that God exists? is such a belief truly central in our web of beliefs? may not be that God’s existence is actually basic.  rather, it may be that other beliefs that necessarily entail such are basic (i believe that God is speaking to me). what provides the impetus for wanting such a placement other than our pre-existing belief in God?  if nothing, in what way is this satisfying?

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  • 1. 2-7 faith and reason
  • 2. faith and reason is faith compatible with reason? are faith and reason antagonistic? are they simply different ways of attaining knowledge within different domains?
  • 3. pragmatic faith pascal’s wager finite gain infinite loss and finite gain i do not believe finite loss infinite gain and finite loss i believe God does not exist God exists
  • 4. problems for pascal belief has moral ramifications one has a moral duty to not only act in a certain way but also to believe in a certain way. this is because belief has the function of guiding actions such that if one fails to believe properly then one fails to act properly in which god do i believe? that is, lacking proper evidence for the existence of the god of some particular religion, how would I go about choosing in which god to believe? is it really as simple as merely having two choices? there seems to be something impious, or at least improper, in presenting faith in such a way: “that when religious faith expresses itself thus, in the language of the gaming-table, it is put to its last trumps.” (william james) is this, then, genuine faith? does presume to know God in some way, namely knows that God will only grant happiness to those who have faith is it really the case that reason can provide no help in deciding whether or not God exists? some further argument must be made to demonstrate that this is the case
  • 5. willing to believe faith has the ability to be self-authenticating a runner believing he will win a race, even without evidence, helps provide the impetus for doing just that (because, again, belief has the function of guiding action) does this work with God? is our belief self-authenticating in that it make it more likely that God will exist? looking at clifford’s example of the ship owner and the ship, does faith in any way authenticate the safety of the ship? can one even do such a thing as “willing” a certain kind of belief in this strong volitional sense?
  • 6. fideism “ the exclusive or basic reliance upon faith alone, accompanied by a consequent disparagement of reason and utilized especially in the pursuit of philosophical or religious truth." (alvin plantinga) often holds that reason has been corrupted by sin and The Fall; as such, revelation has dominance two versions faith operates in a domain where reason has no power; in religious domain faith is above reason faith and reason are in conflict such that any attempt to use reason in spiritual matters is bound to result in absurdity though it is not necessary to hold both positions, it is possible to do so
  • 7. faith is above reason genuine faith appears when reason reaches its end ([p], 124) basing one’s faith in reason results in faith being increased or diminished depending on the information available at one time. in such a case, one’s faith could even be destroyed by some new piece of evidence. but if evidence does not matter here, why does it matter elsewhere? why is it that God’s existence is so radically different from the chair’s?
  • 8. compatibility of faith and reason reformed epistemology stands in contrast to traditional foundationalism holds that all propositions must be basic or grounded in in other basic propositions to be basic is to be: 1) self-evident; 2) incorrigible; 3) evident to the senses third premise is often not a part of a foundational account of knowledge; we can be wrong about what we sense holds that propositions can be considered properly basic because of their position in a person’s noetic structure
  • 9. issues with reformed epistemology regardless of whether or not some proposition is central in one’s noetic structure does not remove its possibility for change are we not obligated to consider the arguments of our peers before declaring certainty? what prevents us from asserting some other belief as serving as central to, and, as such, foundational for, our noetic structure? in other words, how does this actually justify our belief that God exists? is such a belief truly central in our web of beliefs? may not be that God’s existence is actually basic. rather, it may be that other beliefs that necessarily entail such are basic (i believe that God is speaking to me). what provides the impetus for wanting such a placement other than our pre-existing belief in God? if nothing, in what way is this satisfying?