This panel discussed learning analytics and learning sciences. Janice Gobert discussed problems with standardized tests and how interactive labs have assessment potential but challenges. Chris Dede discussed his research on immersive learning using virtual reality and challenges assessing open-ended environments. Taylor Martin discussed how microgenetic research and learning analytics can improve data collection and analysis. Carolyn Rose discussed using conversational data and a new theoretical framework analyzing social processes and distances. The panel addressed if these methods lead to improved standardized test scores, with Janice and Chris noting validity issues with standardized tests and that these methods improve deeper learning over rote memorization.