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Discrete and
Continuous Simulation
Marcio Carvalho
Luis Luna
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
What is it all about?
 Numerical simulation approach
 Level of Aggregation
 Policies versus Decisions
 Aggregate versus Individuals
 Aggregate Dynamics versus Problem solving
 Difficulty of the formulation
 Nature of the system/problem
 Nature of the question
 Nature of preferred lenses
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
Basic concepts
1. Static or dynamic models
2. Stochastic, deterministic or chaotic models
3. Discrete or continuous change/models
4. Aggregates or Individuals
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
1. Static or Dynamic models
 Dynamic: State variables change over time
(System Dynamics, Discrete Event, Agent-
Based, Econometrics?)
 Static: Snapshot at a single point in time
(Monte Carlo simulation, optimization models,
etc.)
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
2. Deterministic, Stochastic or
Chaotic
 Deterministic model is one whose behavior is
entire predictable. The system is perfectly
understood, then it is possible to predict precisely
what will happen.
 Stochastic model is one whose behavior cannot be
entirely predicted.
 Chaotic model is a deterministic model with a
behavior that cannot be entirely predicted
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
3. Discrete or Continuous
models
 Discrete model: the state variables change
only at a countable number of points in time.
These points in time are the ones at which
the event occurs/change in state.
 Continuous: the state variables change in a
continuous way, and not abruptly from one
state to another (infinite number of states).
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
3. Discrete or Continuous
models
 Continuous model: Bank account
Principal
Interest
Average
Interest Rate
Noise
Simulated
Principal
Sim Interest
Estimated
Interest Rate
Noise Seed
Observed
Interest Rate
Continuous and Stochastic
Continuous and Deterministic
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
3. Discrete and Continuous
models
 Discrete model: Bank Account
Simulated
Principal 1 0
Sim Interest 1 0
Average
Principal 0
Averaging
time 0
<Time>
<TIME
STEP>
Observed
Interest Rate 0
<Average
Interest Rate>
Simulated
Principal 1
Sim Interest 1
Average
Principal
Averaging
time
<Time>
<TIME
STEP>
Observed
Interest Rate
<Average
Interest Rate>
<Noise>
Discrete and Stochastic
Discrete and Deterministic
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
4. Aggregate and Individual
models
 Aggregate model: we look for a more distant
position. Modeler is more distant. Policy
model. This view tends to be more
deterministic.
 Individual model: modeler is taking a closer
look of the individual decisions. This view
tends to be more stochastic.
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
The “Soup” of models
 Waiting in line
 Waiting in line 1B
 Busy clerk
 Waiting in line (Stella version)
 Mortgages (ARENA model)
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
Time handling
2 approaches:
 Time-slicing: move forward in our models in equal
time intervals.
 Next-event technique: the model is only examined
and updated when it is known that a state (or
behavior) changes. Time moves from event to event.
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
Alternative views of
Discreteness
 Culberston’s feedback view
 TOTE model
(Miller, Galanter and Pribram, 1960)
)
)(
'
(
)
'
( 2
1
1 

 




 t
t
t
t
t Y
Y
d
d
Y
g
g
a
Y
Test
Operate
(Congruity)
(Incongruity)
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
Peoples thoughts
“The system contains a mixture of discrete
events, discrete and different magnitudes, and
continuous processes. Such mixed processes
have generally been difficult to represent in
continuous simulation models, and the common
recourse has been a very high level of
aggregation which has exposed the model to
serious inaccuracy”
(Coyle, 1982)
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
Peoples thoughts
“Only from a more distant perspective in which
events and decisions are deliberately blurred
into patterns of behavior and policy structure
will the notion that ‘behavior is a consequence
of feedback structure’ arise and be perceived to
yield powerful insights.”
(Richardson, 1991)
PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics
Fall 2002
So, is it all about these?
 Numerical simulation approach
 Level of Aggregation
 Policies versus Decisions
 Aggregate versus Individuals
 Problem solving versus Aggregate Dynamics
 Difficulty of the formulation
 Nature of the system/problem
 Nature of the question
 Nature of preferred lenses

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Discrete_and_Continuous_Simulation.ppt

  • 1. Discrete and Continuous Simulation Marcio Carvalho Luis Luna PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002
  • 2. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 What is it all about?  Numerical simulation approach  Level of Aggregation  Policies versus Decisions  Aggregate versus Individuals  Aggregate Dynamics versus Problem solving  Difficulty of the formulation  Nature of the system/problem  Nature of the question  Nature of preferred lenses
  • 3. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 Basic concepts 1. Static or dynamic models 2. Stochastic, deterministic or chaotic models 3. Discrete or continuous change/models 4. Aggregates or Individuals
  • 4. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 1. Static or Dynamic models  Dynamic: State variables change over time (System Dynamics, Discrete Event, Agent- Based, Econometrics?)  Static: Snapshot at a single point in time (Monte Carlo simulation, optimization models, etc.)
  • 5. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 2. Deterministic, Stochastic or Chaotic  Deterministic model is one whose behavior is entire predictable. The system is perfectly understood, then it is possible to predict precisely what will happen.  Stochastic model is one whose behavior cannot be entirely predicted.  Chaotic model is a deterministic model with a behavior that cannot be entirely predicted
  • 6. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 3. Discrete or Continuous models  Discrete model: the state variables change only at a countable number of points in time. These points in time are the ones at which the event occurs/change in state.  Continuous: the state variables change in a continuous way, and not abruptly from one state to another (infinite number of states).
  • 7. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 3. Discrete or Continuous models  Continuous model: Bank account Principal Interest Average Interest Rate Noise Simulated Principal Sim Interest Estimated Interest Rate Noise Seed Observed Interest Rate Continuous and Stochastic Continuous and Deterministic
  • 8. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 3. Discrete and Continuous models  Discrete model: Bank Account Simulated Principal 1 0 Sim Interest 1 0 Average Principal 0 Averaging time 0 <Time> <TIME STEP> Observed Interest Rate 0 <Average Interest Rate> Simulated Principal 1 Sim Interest 1 Average Principal Averaging time <Time> <TIME STEP> Observed Interest Rate <Average Interest Rate> <Noise> Discrete and Stochastic Discrete and Deterministic
  • 9. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 4. Aggregate and Individual models  Aggregate model: we look for a more distant position. Modeler is more distant. Policy model. This view tends to be more deterministic.  Individual model: modeler is taking a closer look of the individual decisions. This view tends to be more stochastic.
  • 10. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 The “Soup” of models  Waiting in line  Waiting in line 1B  Busy clerk  Waiting in line (Stella version)  Mortgages (ARENA model)
  • 11. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 Time handling 2 approaches:  Time-slicing: move forward in our models in equal time intervals.  Next-event technique: the model is only examined and updated when it is known that a state (or behavior) changes. Time moves from event to event.
  • 12. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 Alternative views of Discreteness  Culberston’s feedback view  TOTE model (Miller, Galanter and Pribram, 1960) ) )( ' ( ) ' ( 2 1 1          t t t t t Y Y d d Y g g a Y Test Operate (Congruity) (Incongruity)
  • 13. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 Peoples thoughts “The system contains a mixture of discrete events, discrete and different magnitudes, and continuous processes. Such mixed processes have generally been difficult to represent in continuous simulation models, and the common recourse has been a very high level of aggregation which has exposed the model to serious inaccuracy” (Coyle, 1982)
  • 14. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 Peoples thoughts “Only from a more distant perspective in which events and decisions are deliberately blurred into patterns of behavior and policy structure will the notion that ‘behavior is a consequence of feedback structure’ arise and be perceived to yield powerful insights.” (Richardson, 1991)
  • 15. PAD 824 – Advanced Topics in System Dynamics Fall 2002 So, is it all about these?  Numerical simulation approach  Level of Aggregation  Policies versus Decisions  Aggregate versus Individuals  Problem solving versus Aggregate Dynamics  Difficulty of the formulation  Nature of the system/problem  Nature of the question  Nature of preferred lenses