Inclusions and Exclusions of Surveying Practice
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The document discusses efforts by the West Virginia GIS-Surveying Committee to promote cooperation and understanding between surveyors and GIS professionals. The Committee worked to clarify the differences between surveying and GIS mapping based on the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying's Model Law and Rules. This included distinguishing between original land measurement and locational referencing in maps. The Committee aims to encourage best practices for metadata, disclaimers, and certification to avoid disputes over boundaries of professional practice between the two fields.
Inclusions and Exclusions of Surveying Practice
- 1. Mapping the Mountain State GIS-Surveying Committee Promoting and sharing geographic information and mapping technologies in the Mountain State 11/13/09 GIS-Surveying Committee
- 2. Mapping the Mountain State Resolution in endorsing NCEES Inclusions & Exclusions of Surveying Practice 11 November 2009 2GIS-Surveying Committee
- 3. Mapping the Mountain State 11 November 2009 Surveying.……Meets……..GIS • Mapping traditionally done by Surveyors • High skill and knowledge of measurement and error adjustment • GIS maps typically have low accuracy, little control, subject to inappropriate usage • Health, Safety, & Welfare of public in danger from misuse of GIS or bad GIS data • GIS Professionals are practicing survey/mapping without a license • Surveyor's professional codes overreach by including all manner of mapping, regardless of purpose or use of GIS • No distinction between original measurement documentation and representational, referential spatial diagrams • Criteria needed to distinguish Survey from other mapping • "Surveyors' Full Employment Act" Surveying Concerns Discussions before the fact are far more productive than dialog after the fact and provides greater opportunities for shared learning and fewer feelings of mistrust GIS Concerns 3GIS-Surveying Committee
- 4. Mapping the Mountain State WV GIS-Surveying Committee • June 2008: Keynote by Oregon GIS Coordinator, Cy Smith at WV GIS Conference • 15 Oct 2008: WVAGP appoints committee • 30 Oct 2008: NCEES surveying inclusion/exclusion rules adopted • Nov 2008: NCEES rule presented to membership • June 2009: Draft resolution presented to membership • Sep 2009: WVSPS pass similar resolution • Oct 2009: WVAGP Draft resolution finalized 11 November 2009 4GIS-Surveying Committee
- 5. Mapping the Mountain State 11 November 2009 Surveying.……Meets……..GIS • Jeff Stephens (Chair) • John Green • Rick Witte • Chuck Smith • Richard Henline • Rob Shaffer • Kurt Donaldson • Craig Neidig • Jennings Starcher • Sam Lammie • Matt Mullenax Surveyors and GIS Professionals who attended GIS-Surveying Committee Meetings 5GIS-Surveying Committee
- 6. Mapping the Mountain State Committee Focus • Clear Map Disclaimer Policy • Encourage use of metadata • Promote GIS Certification • Compare WV surveying laws to NCEES Model Law/Rules • Adopt NCEES “Inclusion/Exclusion Rules of Surveying Practice 11 November 2009 6GIS-Surveying Committee
- 7. Mapping the Mountain State What is NCEES? 11 November 2009 • The ‘Model Law & Rules’ published by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) is a national nonprofit organization composed of provides state engineering and surveying licensure boards. It provides national guidance in developing individual state practice laws. NCEES also creates the common examinations used by most jurisdictions • No statutory authority at NCEES level. Each jurisdiction is autonomous – approximately 65 individual licensing Boards. NCEES Model Law is just that – a “model.” • In 1995, the surveying portion of the Model Law was revised to include specific reference to the use of ‘land information systems and geographic information systems’. Once aware of the change, GIS professionals raised concerns as to the potential impact of the Model Law on the practice of GIS. • The NCEES responded to the concerns by adding representatives from URISA and the National States GIS Council (NSGIC) to a ‘Multi-organizational Task Force’ (MOTF) already comprised of representatives from several engineering, surveying and photogrammetry professional associations. 7GIS-Surveying Committee
- 8. Mapping the Mountain State MOTF (Multiorganizational Task Force) 11 November 2009 ASPRS – Photogrammetry & Remote Sensing MAPPS – Photogrammetry & Mapping ACSM – Survey & Mapping ASCE – Civil Engineers NSPS – Professional Surveyors URISA – GIS Professionals NSGIC – State GIS Councils 8GIS-Surveying Committee
- 9. Mapping the Mountain State Model Law Revisions 11 November 2009 • The NCEES was highly receptive to the 13 months of work of the MOTF and implemented most of the group’s recommendations 18 months later in the 2003 revision to the Model Law. • The success of the effort was due in great part to willingness of the survey community to include the GIS community in the dialog and explore issues of mutual concern. • There was early agreement that surveyors ‘determine’ location and GIS professionals ‘reference’ location. • MODEL LAW was revised with a more narrow definition of the term “Practice of Surveying or Land Surveying” • Previous MODEL LAW had a reference to GIS/LIS technologies. The GIS professionals pushed for the removal of any reference to tools and technologies and provided recommendations to focus the language on the mapping activities that define the practice of surveying. 9GIS-Surveying Committee
- 10. Mapping the Mountain State Model Law Revisions 11 November 2009 Model Law 110.20 Definitions (Model Law) http://www.ncees.org/introduction/about_ncees/model_law_2008.pdf 4. Practice of Surveying – The term “Practice of Surveying,” within the intent of this Act, shall mean providing, or offering to provide, professional services using such sciences as mathematics, geodesy, and photogrammetry, and involving both (1) the making of geometric measurements and gathering related information pertaining to the physical or legal features of the earth, improvements on the earth, the space above, on, or below the earth and (2) providing, utilizing, or developing the same into survey products such as graphics, data, maps, plans, reports, descriptions, or projects. Professional services include acts of consultation, investigation, testimony evaluation, expert technical testimony, planning, mapping, assembling, and interpreting gathered measurements and information related to any one or more of the following... same definition in WV CODE: §30-13A-3. Definitions 10GIS-Surveying Committee
- 11. Mapping the Mountain State Model Rules 11 November 2009 • The most significant work achieved by the MOTF was the development of a set of ‘Model Rules’ intended to accompany the Model Law. • Based upon a set of ‘Inclusions and Exclusions’ developed cooperatively by the Surveying and GIS professionals within the State of North Carolina, the Model Rules set forth specific mapping activities considered ‘included within the surveying practice’ and ‘excluded from surveying practice’ and are intended to serve as guidelines for the both the mapping community at large and the regulatory boards. • The MODEL RULES emphasize that ‘a distinction must be made in the use of electronic systems between making or documenting original measurements in the creation of survey products, versus the copying, interpretation, or representation of those measurements in such systems. • Further, a distinction must be made according to the intent, use, or purpose of measurement products in electronic systems to determine a definitive location versus the use of those products as a locational reference for planning, infrastructure management, and general information’. 11GIS-Surveying Committee
- 12. Mapping the Mountain StateNCEES Model Rules (Cont.) 11 November 2009 • Activities Included within Surveying Practice : – Determining Property Boundaries – Engineering Design Location of Fixed Works – Locating Elevation Contours or Shape of the Earth for Engineering Design, Land Development, etc. – Creating Survey Control Information – Determining and Certifying Basemap Accuracy • Activities Excluded from Surveying Practice: – Infrastructure Inventory and Maintenance – Planning and Analysis – Environmental Management – Social, Demographic, Economic, Tax Maps – Guides, Educational, Advertising maps USAGE Should DetermineWhen GIS Needs Surveyor Supervision 210.25 Inclusions and Exclusions of Surveying Practice http://www.ncees.org/introduction/about_ncees/model_rules_2008.pdf 12GIS-Surveying Committee
- 13. Mapping the Mountain StateNCEES Model Rules (Cont.) 11 November 2009 • National – Urban and Regional Information Systems Association – National States Geographic Information Council – American Society for Photogrammetry & Remote Sensing – American National Standards Institute (ANSI) • State – WV Society of Professional Surveyors Endorsed by: 13GIS-Surveying Committee
- 14. Mapping the Mountain State WV HB 2957 (b) The cooperative extension service of West Virginia University shall develop a program to collect the name and longitudinal and latitudinal data of all cemeteries within West Virginia, including those cemeteries otherwise referenced in section six, article five-a, chapter thirty-five of this code. The program may then be implemented by county cooperative extension service committees. Once implemented, extension workers, along with members of local 4-H organizations, shall collect data with global positioning system devices, and provide said data to the Director of the Historic Preservation Section of the Division of Culture and History, which shall serve as a repository for the information. 11 November 2009 Surveying.……Meets……..GIS Intent of language in bill unclear whether GPS data collection is a practice of a Surveyor or GIS Professional – John Green, WVSPS Legislative Committee 14GIS-Surveying Committee
- 15. Mapping the Mountain State WV HB 2957 (b) The cooperative extension service of West Virginia University shall develop a program to collect the name and longitudinal and latitudinal data of all cemeteries within West Virginia, including those cemeteries otherwise referenced in section six, article five-a, chapter thirty-five of this code. The program may then be implemented by county cooperative extension service committees. Once implemented, extension workers, along with members of local 4-H organizations, shall collect data with global positioning system devices, or other appropriate methods, and provide said data to the Director of the Historic Preservation Section of the Division of Culture and History, which shall serve as a repository for the information. It is the intent of the legislature that data collected under this program are not intended to be used as a survey product, nor intended to indicate the authoritative location of cemetery or property boundaries. 11 November 2009 Surveying.……Meets……..GIS More Precise Language – John Green, WVSPS Legislative Committee 15GIS-Surveying Committee
- 16. Mapping the Mountain State Conflict between Surveyors & GIS Professionals 11 November 2009 16GIS-Surveying Committee
- 17. Mapping the Mountain State WVAGP RESOLUTION • RESOLVED that the West Virginia Association of Geospatial Professionals endorses the “Inclusions and Exclusions of Surveying Practice” as contained within the NCEES Model Rules, dated August 2008, Section 210.25. • Further, be it RESOLVED that the West Virginia Association of Geospatial Professionals recommends to the West Virginia Board of Professional Surveyors to include the “Inclusions and Exclusions of Surveying Practice” as contained within the NCEES Model Rules, dated August 2008, Section 210.25 be incorporated in West Virginia legislation. 11 November 2009 17GIS-Surveying Committee
- 18. Mapping the Mountain State Questions? 11 November 2009 Contact: Kurt Donaldson WV Association of Geospatial Professionals P.O. Box 3903 Charleston, WV 25339 Web: http://www.wvagp.org Phone: (304) 293-9467 E-mail: kdonalds@wvu.edu 18GIS-Surveying Committee