Janet Gregory presents Current Testing Challenges with SoftTest Ireland
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The document discusses challenges with testing agile software development and proposes collaborative solutions. It covers topics like test automation strategies, different levels to automate tests, roles of testers and developers in testing, and challenges with new technologies. The document aims to start a discussion on how testers and developers can better work together to improve testing in agile projects.
Janet Gregory presents Current Testing Challenges with SoftTest Ireland
- 1. September 2012 Belfast & Dublin Janet Gregory, DragonFire Inc. Copyright 2012
- 2. First agile team – 2000 Currently – coaching, testing Book – Agile Testing; January 2009 Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 2
- 3. • challenges • testing activities • automation ◦ the pyramid ◦ where it falls apart • collaborative solutions Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 3
- 4. • mixed messages by thought leaders • technology • distributed teams • organization culture Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 4
- 6. Automate at the feature level push the Automate at the story tests level lower Automate at the task level
- 7. Tests / Examples passes to API test structure Test Method / Fixture calls Developer Code Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc.
- 8. TestLogIn test / examples User Name Password Expected result comments JanetGregory Password Access system as JanetGregory Valid combo saved Janet Gregory Password Error Space in user name boolean TestLogIn (userName, password, expected result) call LogIn (userName, password) compare (actual result, expected result) if true, return pass test method else / fixture return fail end boolean LogIn (name,pwd) Developer code stuff ……….. code if logged in, return true else return false Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. end
- 9. • enables testers / • tests are usually business to define tests through the UI • test code can be in • programmers aren’t programming language usually willing to help • programmers can run • tests are implemented tests as they code after the code is written • testers can ask • testers create and programmers for help implement all tests • takes time from ‘coding’ production code Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 9
- 10. • less abstraction between layers ◦ presentation vs. business layer • more logic in the GUI layer • where is the separation in tests? • who does what? Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 10
- 11. • JavaScript • Flash • Flex • Ajax • Cross-browser compatibility • Mobile
- 12. So, if we can’t test all (most) functionality at the API layer ... Any stories to share? Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 12
- 13. • ATDD (acceptance test driven development) through the GUI ◦ Jasmine: BDD framework to test JavaScript ◦ Sebium: Fit and Selenium combined (Cirilo Wortel) ◦ Selenium: possible, but harder ◦ Ruby / Watir: possible, but harder • Unit tests ◦ jQuery Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 13
- 14. two big questions .... Do testers need to know how to code? Can programmers do all the testing? 14
- 15. • system architecture ◦ high level (context) ◦ component level Thx to Lynn McKee for the term technical awareness 15
- 16. for example, • in JavaScript, there is a small, but important issue with the parseInt function, used to transform strings to integers. • the issue arises when we create a Date object from a 'yyyy-mm-dd' string. Could your testers and programmers have a conversation about this? Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 16
- 18. Brian Marick
- 19. • slicing stories • ATDD (acceptance test driven development) • sharing technical details • teaching testing skills • learning test patterns • learning / teaching design techniques • creating test harnesses, mocks, stubs Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 19
- 21. Instead of saying NO, or being the gatekeeper Be the information provider so business can make the decisions Questions? Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 21
- 22. • agile-testing@yahoogroups.com • www.lisacrispin.com • http://gojko.net/2010/10/05/rethinking-user-interface-test- automation/ • http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/testing-your- javascript-with-jasmine • http://www.software-testing.com.au/blog/2011/01/25/test- automation-styles-and-alternatives-to-the-page-object- pattern/ • www.qualityperspectives.ca Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc. 22
- 23. Contact Information janet@agiletester.ca www.janetgregory.ca twitter: @janetgregoryca lisa@agiletester.ca www.lisacrispin.com twitter: @lisacrispin www.agiletester.ca Copyright 2012 DragonFire Inc.