PE Licensure Panel and Information
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This document summarizes an information session on PE licensure that included presentations on the path to licensure and a panel discussion. The path to licensure presentation covered the requirements of education, experience, and examinations. It explained the process involves obtaining an engineering degree, gaining four years of engineering experience, and passing the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) and Principles and Practice of Engineering (PE) exams administered by NCEES. The document also introduced the panelists which included three licensed professional engineers working in mechanical, structural, and civil engineering with experience ranges of 5-13 years.
PE Licensure Panel and Information
- 1. PE Licensure Information Session October 29, 2020
- 2. PRESENTATION OUTLINE - Participating organizations intro - The Path to PE Licensure by Dave Blume - Intro Panelists - Q & A Session - Raffle
- 4. Engineers Without Borders – Minnesota Professional Chapter EWB-USA builds a better world through engineering projects that empower communities to meet their basic human needs and equip leaders to solve the world’s most pressing challenges. Current projects include: Rio Azul, Guatemala High School Aldea Patzac, Guatemala Elementary School Santa Rosa, Peru Clean Accessible Water Minneapolis Housing Energy Audit Wisconsin Library Restoration Website: ewb-mn.org Contact: information@ewb-mn.org www.facebook.com/EWB.MN VOLUNTEERS NEEDED PROJECT MANAGEMENT ENERGY AUDIT, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING GRANT WRITING WATER RESOURCES ENGINEERING ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING FUNDRAISING AND FINANCE
- 5. Engineering Alliance of Minnesota Engineering Alliance Minnesota, formerly the MN Society of Professional Engineers, safeguards Minnesota’s engineering community by 1) Preserving the power and prestige of the PE license as a standard for qualified practice that protects the public; 2) Protecting the careers of engineers by offering accessible, relevant and affordable continuing education; and 3) Bringing together the future of the engineering industry by leading a collaborative effort with others in the STEM community to provide long- term solutions to workforce development challenges. Upcoming Events include: MN Mathcounts Changing Speed Limits in Minnesota Seminar Industry 4.0 Seminar Monthly Programs for all Engineering Disciplines Website: www.engineeringalliancemn.org Contact: registration@engineeringalliancemn.org Become a Member: https://www.engineeringalliancemn.org/general/custom.asp?page=JoinorRenew
- 6. National Society of Black Engineers Twin Cities Professionals NSBE-TCPC Mission “to increase the number of culturally responsible Black engineers who excel academically, succeed professionally, and positively impact the community.” Key Programs • Professional Development Workshops • Collegiate Mentorship Program • 5-For-5 Initiative Website: nsbetcpc.org Instagram: @nsbetcpc Contact: president@nsbetcpc.org
- 7. Minnesota Structural Engineers Association – Young Member Group The goal of Young Member Group of the Minnesota Structural Engineers Association (MNSEA YMG) is to assist young engineers as they build their careers in the structural engineering profession. We do this by offering training, networking, leadership and community outreach opportunities to our members. Recent and upcoming Events include: - Pillsbury Hall Virtual Site Tour - June - National Online Trivia Night – August - SIMPSON Strong-Tie FRP Event - Oct 27th - Lower Landing Virtual Site Tour – November - First Year of Your Career Presentations - December Website: http://www.mn-sea.org/ymg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mnsea-ymg/ Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/MNSEAYMG/ Contact: mnsea.ymg@gmail.com
- 8. Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers Twin Cities Professional Chapter The SHPE Twin Cities Professional Chapter (SHPE-TC) is a non-profit that has served the Twin Cities for over 25 years by promoting personal and professional growth and increasing educational opportunities. Our vision is to change lives by empowering our local Hispanic/Latinx community to realize its fullest potential and impact the Twin Cities through STEM awareness, access, support and development. Website: http://www.shpetwincities.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shpetc Instagram: mnsea.ymg@gmail.com Contact: vicepresident@shpetwincities.org Key Programs: - Professional development, networking, and community outreach events for our members. - Scholarships and mentoring support to local Hispanic college and high school students pursuing STEM careers. - Annual Noche de Ciencias events to inspire STEM in local high schools
- 9. THE PATH TO LICENSURE By Dave Blume
- 12. Your Presenter Dave Blume, PE Dave serves on the Board’s Executive Committee as Secretary. He has worked in the electrical engineering industry for more than 25 years. As the Electrical Department Head and Chief Electrical Engineer at Gausman & Moore, Dave leads projects in the government, military, healthcare, educational, institutional, commercial and industrial sectors. He has been a partner in the firm since 2009. Dave also served in the US Air Force for 12 years, flying the F-4. This background as a fighter pilot allowed him to develop a solution-oriented, decisive leadership style, particularly on the 100+ projects he’s completed with the US Army Corps of Engineers.
- 13. Overview About the Board Licensure: It’s Value to You and the Public The Licensure Process: Education Examination Experience THE PATH TO LICENSURE
- 14. Board Mission AELSLAGID regulates the professions and enforces the statutes and rules in order to protect the health, safety and welfare of the public. #1 JOB: PROTECT THE PUBLIC
- 15. Board Mission Licensed engineers have met and continue to maintain certain competencies: Meet the education, examination and experience standards for licensure or certification Maintain their records in good standing Follow a code of professional conduct PUBLIC PROTECTION
- 16. Make-up of the Board 21 Board Members 3 Architects 5 professional Engineers 2 Land Surveyors 2 Landscape Architects 1 professional Geologist 1 professional soil scientist 2 certified Interior Designers 5 public members
- 17. The Work of the Board Promulgate Rules Enforce Statutes and Rules (Disciplinary Action) Evaluate candidates against the requirements for licensure and approve applications for licensure
- 18. A Short History of Licensure Before registration/licensing anyone could work as an engineer without proof of competency. Most with any credibility were in the military 1818 (England) – Institute of Civil Engineers formed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_Council 1847 (England) – Institute of Mechanical Engineers formed 1871 (England) – Institute of Electrical Engineers formed 1897 (England) – first engineering qualification exam administered
- 19. A Short History of Licensure 1907 - Wyoming became the first state to require engineering registration prompted by faulty irrigation design 1920 - National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) was formed to address a need for a national council to help improve uniformity of laws and to promote mobility of licensure (uniform basis of examination and registration) throughout the country https://ncees.org/wp- content/uploads/2012/11/NCEES-history-web.pdf 1925 - National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE) formed to protect engineers from unqualified practitioners, build recognition for engineers, and stand against unethical practices and inadequate compensation 1932 – Adoption of Model Law for registration by NCEES 1950 - All states require licensing
- 20. A Short History of Licensure 1955 - First multi-state common exam administered in eight states 1956 - American Council of Engineering Companies (ACEC) formed representing engineering firms and business practices rather than individuals 1996 - First multiple choice exams administered 2014 - First Computer Based Test (CBT) administered for the Fundaments of Engineering (FE) 2017 - First CBT administered for the Principles and Practices of Engineering (PE)
- 21. What Licensure Means for You Do you know what you’ll do when you graduate? Where do you see yourself in five years? What about 10 years? 20 or 30?
- 22. What Licensure Means for You What do hiring firms look for? How can you stand out as having the knowledge, skills, and experience employers want?
- 23. What Licensure Means for the Public Has the education, experience, and technical knowledge for the job Has an obligation to safeguard the public
- 24. State Law and Engineering Practice If you are not licensed you can’t call yourself a “professional engineer” or use the abbreviation “PE” or imply you are one/are licensed. By statute, some state agencies require plans and reports be specified/signed by a licensed professional engineer Firms bidding on public works projects may be required to have a professional engineer in “responsible charge” of a project.
- 25. A PE License Is A Valuable Asset In a stack of resumes, yours stands out You typically earn more than peers without a PE Flexible career path/advancement You belong to a licensed profession You serve the public–not just your employer The public is safeguarded from incompetent or unethical practice
- 26. Types of PE Licenses Agricultural and Biological Engineering Architectural Engineering Chemical Civil: Construction Civil: Geotechnical Civil: Structural Civil: Transportation Civil: Water Resources and Environmental Structural Control Systems Electrical and Computer: Power Electrical and Computer: Computer Engineering Electrical and Computer: Electronics, Controls, and Communications
- 27. Types of PE Licenses Environmental Fire Protection Industrial and Systems Mechanical: HVAC and Refrigeration Mechanical: Machine Design and Materials Mechanical: Thermal and Fluid Systems Metallurgical and Materials Mining and Mineral Processing Naval Architecture and Marine Nuclear Petroleum Structural
- 28. The Licensing Process Board oversees Requirements can vary; Minnesota generally consistent with other states (NCEES guidelines and exams)—but always check Comity—Ability to gain licensure in additional states
- 29. Getting Licensed The 3 E’s of Licensure: Education Experience Examination
- 30. Getting Licensed The 3 E’s of Licensure: Education A four-year EAC-ABET accredited degree
- 31. Getting Licensed The 3 E’s of Licensure: Education Experience The equivalent of four full-time years, earned before sitting for the PE exam (with rule change, you can now sit prior to completing experience)
- 32. Getting Licensed The 3 E’s of Licensure: Education Experience Examination Fundamentals of Engineering Principles and Practice of Engineering Apply to Minnesota Board to sit for these exams Exams administered by NCEES
- 33. Education Get an engineering degree from an EAC/ABET accredited program Bachelor’s or master’s (or both) College engineering program
- 34. Experience Some states require direct supervision by a PE Four years, progressive
- 35. Examination Pass the FE exam in your senior year of college (or shortly after graduation) Pass the PE exam in your engineering discipline
- 36. FE Exam: The Fundamentals Fundamentals: What you learned in college Computer-based exams Offered year-round at approved testing centers
- 37. FE Exam: The Fundamentals Administered by NCEES EAC-ABET accredited degree: Apply direct to NCEES (after passing, apply to Board for EIT). No EAC-ABET accredited degree (and other special circumstances): Apply to the Board See mn.gov/aelslagid/engineering.html
- 38. FE Exam: Administration 6-hour exam appointment, which includes Nondisclosure agreement (2 minutes) Tutorial (8 minutes) Exam (5 hours and 20 minutes) Scheduled break (25 minutes) Brief survey Check with NCEES for current length
- 39. FE Exam: FAQs What’s the exam day like? http://www.youtube.com/user/nceesmedia What references can I bring? FE Supplied Reference Handbook What do I use for scratch work? Scratch booklet provided What’s the NCEES Examinee Guide? official guide to policies and procedures Are practice exams available? When will I receive my results?
- 40. PE Exam: Administration Approved testing centers Year-round paper and CBT 9-hour exam appointment (except for structural), which includes Nondisclosure agreement (2 minutes) Tutorial (8 minutes) Exam (8 hours) Scheduled break (50 minutes) Brief survey Structural is two 9-hour days Check with NCEES for current length
- 41. PE Exam: Principles and Practice Reflects real-world practice Tests for minimal competency Developed by licensed engineers Open-book: reference materials permitted for paper test, provided electronically for CBT Specifications and exam prep materials available at ncees.org
- 42. Exam Particulars FE Exam (CBT) Registration Fee $175 PE Exam (CBT) Registration Fee $375 PE Exam (Paper) Registration Fee $350 SE Exam (Paper) Registration Fee $500 CBT exams are available all year but availability is based on testing center scheduling Paper exams are offered once or twice per year in April (February deadline) and/or October (August) Check with NCEES for current prices and schedules
- 44. Continuing Education 24 professional development hours (PDH) Maximum 12 carryover overs 2 of 24 hours must be ethics NO carryover ethics allowed Ethics hours must be earned during the biennium to which they are applied
- 45. Renewal Window Licenses expire every even numbered year Current licenses expire June 30, 2022 (regardless of date issued) Window opens generally in April Disciplinary action taken against you must be reported on renewal
- 46. Continuing Education Audit In accordance with Minnesota Statute § 326.107, subdivision 1 (2016), all licensees and certificate holders are required to certify having completed 24 professional development hours (PDH) of continuing education, of which two must be dedicated to professional ethics, per biennial renewal except for the carryover permitted. As part of the continuing education program, the Board conducts audits of licensees to ensure compliance.
- 47. Rejected CE Classes First Aid CPR AED Certification Employee Right to Know Ergonomics AWAIR Bloodborne Pathogens Fire Emergency Energy Authority Matrix US Employment Law for Supervisors Florida Law and Rules
- 48. Connect with the Board Website News, Applications, Deadlines Applying? “Get Licensed” Already licensed? “Manage License” Get Board updates via email: mn.gov/aelslagid/subscribe.html Social Media facebook.com/mn.aelslagid twitter @mnaelslagid linkedin.com/company/mnaelslagid
- 49. Other States THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT IN EVERY STATE Some states allow you to take the PE exam prior to getting the required experience (Decoupling) THE RULES IN EVERY STATE ARE DIFFERENT Minnesota no longer requires that you get the experience before taking the exam EVERY STATE HAS DIFFERENT RULES
- 51. INTRO OF PANELISTS • Brittany Jaramillo, PE • Years of experience: 7 • Michaud Cooley Erickson – Mechanical-Electrical Engineering Firm • Senior Associate • Mechanical
- 52. INTRO OF PANELISTS • Kevin Vazquez, PE • Years of experience: 13 • Meyer Borgman Johnson, Inc. - Structural Engineering Firm • Senior Structural Project Manager • Civil-Structural
- 53. INTRO OF PANELISTS • Jacob Hexum, PE • Years of experience: 5 yrs • Black & Veatch - Engineering Firm • Project Engineer • Civil-Structural
- 54. INTRO OF PANELISTS • Ndaga S. Mwakabuta, Ph.D., P.E., SMIEEE • Years of experience: 20+ yrs • Cummins Inc. • Technical Advisor • Electrical – Generator Sets Designs
- 55. Q & A SESSION
- 56. RAFFLE
- 57. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
- 58. FOLLOW UP PLEASE VISIT THE LINKEDIN PAGE OF THE ENGINEERING ALLIANCE MINNESOTA (MN NSPE) TO CONNECT WITH PEERS AND FIND OTHER RESOURCES: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ engineeringalliancemn/ www.engineeringalliancemn.org
- 59. REFERENCE WEBSITES MINNESOTA BOARD OF AELSLAGID https://mn.gov/aelslagid/engineering.html NATIONAL COUNCIL OF EXAMINERS FOR ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING (NCEES) https://ncees.org/licensure/ YOUTUBE VIDEOS BY NCEES https://www.youtube.com/user/NCEESMedia NATIONAL SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS (NSPE) https://www.nspe.org/resources/licensure/what-pe
- 60. STUDY MATERIAL • Recommended Study References: • NCEES Exam Specifications (what is on the test) • http://ncees.org/engineering/ pe/ • Civil Engineering Reference Manual (CERM) - PPI • Sample exams – NCEES and PPI • Other PPI materials: Practice Problems, Six Minute Solutions (example problems) • Online practice problems • Civil Engineering Dictionary
- 61. • PE Review Courses: • Engineering Alliance Minnesota (formerly MnSPE) • MGEC • PPI • ASCE • U of M, contact Joe Labuz, jlabuz@umn.edu • School of PE • Engineering Education & Training (EET) • Advanced Engineering Institute (AEI) STUDY COURSES