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Probe Characterization 
Amber Precision Instruments, Inc. (API) 
Jul. 23, 2014
Our EMI Probes 
1 
EMI Probes: 
- Up to 6 GHz 
- Up to 20 GHz 
- Up to 40 GHz 
Optional EMI Probes; 
Choose: 
- Size 
- Frequency range 
- Field Component 
* EMI Hx 2 mm
Characterization Structure 
up to 15 GHz 
2 
50 Ohms Microstrip Line (MSL)
Characterization Structure 
up to 40 GHz 
3 
50 Ohms Air-Dielectric* Coplanar Waveguide (CPW) 
* To avoid the effect of non-TEM waves on probe characterization at higher freqs (>15 GHz).
Probe Characterization Setup 
4
Typical EMI Probe S21 
5 
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 
x 10 
9 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
-55 
-60 
-65 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
* EMI Hx 2 mm: up to 10 GHz
What Are the Specs? 
6 
Log freq: Low freq with 20 dB/dec slope 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
-55 
-60 
-65 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
* EMI Hx 2 mm
What Are the Specs? 
7 
Log freq: Low freq with 20 dB/dec slope 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
-55 
-60 
* EMI Hx 2 mm 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-65 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
20 dB/dec Line
What Are the Specs? 
8 
High freq: How high the probe measures? 
0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 
x 10 
10 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
-55 
-60 
-65 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
* EMI Hx 2 mm
What Are the Specs? 
9 
Unwanted field: Decoupling of unwanted components 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-40 
-50 
-60 
-70 
-80 
-90 
-100 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
Hx Field,  = 0 
Unwanted Field,  = 90 
* EMI Hx 2 mm
What Are the Specs? 
10 
Low freq: How low the probe measures 
8 
10 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
-55 
-60 
-65 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
in a “practical” setup?
What Are the Specs? 
11 
Low freq: How low the probe measures 
10 
7 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-40 
-50 
-60 
-70 
-80 
-90 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
in a “practical” setup?
What Are the Specs? 
12 
Low freq: How low the probe measures 
10 
7 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-40 
-50 
-60 
-70 
-80 
-90 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
in a “practical” setup? 
60 dB dynamic range
What Are the Specs? 
13 
Low freq: How low the probe measures 
10 
7 
10 
8 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-40 
-50 
-60 
-70 
-80 
-90 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
in a “practical” setup? 
20 dB/dec slope 
60 dB dynamic range 
4 MHz
High Freq Probe 
14 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-30 
-40 
-50 
-60 
-70 
-80 
-90 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
Hx Field,  = 0 
Unwanted Field,  = 90 
* EMI Hx 1 mm L: up to 20 GHz
Probe Factor 
Probe factor: Provide probe factor 
SmartScan imports probe factor 
SmartScan measures and calculates system factor 
10 
8 
Measured Probe Factor 
Theoretical Open-Circuit Probe Factor 
10 
9 
10 
10 
50 
40 
30 
20 
Frequency [Hz] 
|PF| [dB(A/m)/V] 
* EMI Hx 2 mm 15
Other Methods of 
Data Presentation 
• How other people characterize their probes? 
• How the characterization data is presented? 
• Is their data presentation fair? 
16
Example* of 10 kHz (?) to 6 GHz 
Probe Data Presentation 
17 
Let’s analyze the data! 
Extract 
* Aprel: http://media.wix.com/ugd/36d46a_46d2902bfdd24c25b401582e6a488370.pdf
Is Freq Scale OK? 
18 
Let’s analyze the data!
Is Freq Scale OK? 
19 
Let’s analyze the data! 
Why the freq axis of 
extracted data don’t 
match?! 
Let’s see!
Is Freq Scale OK? 
20 
Why all ticks are 
0.99999 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.1 GHz 
equal?! 
Well, not a big deal. 
Maybe just a typo!
Lower Frequencies 
21 
Why all ticks are 
equal?! 
Well, not a big deal. 
Maybe just a typo!
Lower Frequencies 
22 
Why all ticks are 
equal?! 
Well, not a big deal. 
Maybe just a typo! 
What happened to 
lower freqs?! 
Is it extrapolated or 
really measured? 
What is the measurement 
instrument setup (IF BW, 
span, no. of points, etc.) to 
measure down to 10 kHz? 
Is it a “practical” setup?
Plot It Differently 
23 
4 
-40 
-60 
-80 
-100 
10 
10 
5 
10 
6 
10 
7 
10 
8 
10 
9 
-120 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(log freq)?
Plot It Differently 
24 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(log freq)? 
-40 
-60 
-80 
-100 
10 
4 
10 
5 
10 
6 
10 
7 
10 
8 
10 
9 
-120 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
20 dB/dec Line 
The probe is NOT 
purely inductive 
at lower freqs 
(as claimed). 
Is it probe issue? 
Or, measurement 
issue? 
Or, simply not 
extrapolated the 
right way? 
Note: Simple extrapolation 
(even if it is done the right 
way) does NOT mean probe 
can measure down to that 
freq!
How about 10 kHz to 
20 GHz (?) Probe? 
25 
Let’s analyze the data! 
Extract
Flat Response (?) 
26 
Let’s analyze the data!
Flat Response (?) 
27 
Let’s analyze the data! 
The data is from -30 dB 
to -60 dB. Why the scale 
is from 0 to -180 dB?! 
Well, it looks better* this 
way! :-) 
*“flat response across 
the frequency range”
Plot It Differently 
28 
0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 
x 10 
10 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(tight scale)?
Plot It Differently 
29 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(log freq)? 
8 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
10 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB]
Plot It Differently 
30 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(log freq)? 
8 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
10 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
20 dB/dec Line 
The lower freqs seems 
to be fine for this prob. 
The deviation might be 
just data extraction 
error.
8 
-30 
-35 
-40 
-45 
10 
10 
9 
10 
10 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
20 dB/dec Line 
Higher Frequencies 
31 
How about the 
higher freqs? 
There is about 
20 dB notch @ 
13 GHz! 
A deep notch is usually 
a BIG red flag for 
“unwanted field” coupling!
Higher Frequencies 
32 
The question is: 
How to make sure this probe 
measures the “desired field” 
up to 20 GHz (as claimed)? 
The “unwanted field” decoupling 
data of probe need to be provided. 
This probe is suspected 
to work <10 GHz, 
unless the rejection info 
is available!
10 kHz to 40 GHz Probe 
33 
Let’s analyze the data! 
Extract
Flat Response (?) 
34 
Let’s analyze the data!
Flat Response (?) 
35 
Let’s analyze the data! 
Same question: 
The data is from -35 dB 
to -55 dB. Why the scale 
is from 0 to -120 dB?!
Plot It Differently 
Single Probe Solution (?) 
36 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(tight scale and 
log freq)? 
10 
10.2 
10 
10.3 
10 
10.4 
10 
10.5 
10.6 
10 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB]
Plot It Differently 
Single Probe Solution (?) 
37 
What if we plot it 
in a different way 
(tight scale and 
log freq)? 
10 
10.2 
10 
10.3 
10 
10.4 
10 
10.5 
10.6 
10 
-35 
-40 
-45 
-50 
Frequency [Hz] 
|S21| [dB] 
This info is NOT sufficient 
to evaluate the probe up 
to 40 GHz! 
The “unwanted field” decoupling 
data of probe need to be provided. 
What does happen to lower freqs? 
Does this probe have sufficient 
sensitivity to measure down to 10 
kHz?!
Another Example* of Data 
Presentation 
* Detectus AB: http://www.detectus.se/products_nearfieldprobes.html 38
Another Example* of Data 
Presentation 
Again, the data is from -30 dB 
to -60 dB. Why the scale is 
from 0 to -60 dB?! 
Without unwanted field data, 
there is no sufficient info to 
evaluate the probe. 
Log freq scale is required for 
low freq evaluation. 
* Detectus AB: http://www.detectus.se/products_nearfieldprobes.html 39
What to Look for in 
Probe Characterization Data? 
• Unwanted field rejection data need to be provided to 
determine higher usable freq. 
• Is lower usable freq achievable in a “practical” setup? 
• Is the probe purely inductive/capacitive at lower freqs? 
• Is the characterization structure (MSL, CPW, etc.) suitable for 
freq of interest? 
• What is the measurement setup/condition? 
• Is the scale proportional to data range? 
40
41 
Questions? 
Contact us: amberpi@amberpi.com 
www.amberpi.com

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Probe characterization v5 web

  • 1. Probe Characterization Amber Precision Instruments, Inc. (API) Jul. 23, 2014
  • 2. Our EMI Probes 1 EMI Probes: - Up to 6 GHz - Up to 20 GHz - Up to 40 GHz Optional EMI Probes; Choose: - Size - Frequency range - Field Component * EMI Hx 2 mm
  • 3. Characterization Structure up to 15 GHz 2 50 Ohms Microstrip Line (MSL)
  • 4. Characterization Structure up to 40 GHz 3 50 Ohms Air-Dielectric* Coplanar Waveguide (CPW) * To avoid the effect of non-TEM waves on probe characterization at higher freqs (>15 GHz).
  • 6. Typical EMI Probe S21 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 x 10 9 -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 -55 -60 -65 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] * EMI Hx 2 mm: up to 10 GHz
  • 7. What Are the Specs? 6 Log freq: Low freq with 20 dB/dec slope 10 8 10 9 10 10 -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 -55 -60 -65 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] * EMI Hx 2 mm
  • 8. What Are the Specs? 7 Log freq: Low freq with 20 dB/dec slope -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 -55 -60 * EMI Hx 2 mm 10 8 10 9 10 10 -65 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] 20 dB/dec Line
  • 9. What Are the Specs? 8 High freq: How high the probe measures? 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 x 10 10 -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 -55 -60 -65 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] * EMI Hx 2 mm
  • 10. What Are the Specs? 9 Unwanted field: Decoupling of unwanted components 10 8 10 9 10 10 -30 -40 -50 -60 -70 -80 -90 -100 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] Hx Field,  = 0 Unwanted Field,  = 90 * EMI Hx 2 mm
  • 11. What Are the Specs? 10 Low freq: How low the probe measures 8 10 10 9 10 10 -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 -55 -60 -65 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] in a “practical” setup?
  • 12. What Are the Specs? 11 Low freq: How low the probe measures 10 7 10 8 10 9 10 10 -30 -40 -50 -60 -70 -80 -90 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] in a “practical” setup?
  • 13. What Are the Specs? 12 Low freq: How low the probe measures 10 7 10 8 10 9 10 10 -30 -40 -50 -60 -70 -80 -90 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] in a “practical” setup? 60 dB dynamic range
  • 14. What Are the Specs? 13 Low freq: How low the probe measures 10 7 10 8 10 9 10 10 -30 -40 -50 -60 -70 -80 -90 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] in a “practical” setup? 20 dB/dec slope 60 dB dynamic range 4 MHz
  • 15. High Freq Probe 14 10 9 10 10 -30 -40 -50 -60 -70 -80 -90 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] Hx Field,  = 0 Unwanted Field,  = 90 * EMI Hx 1 mm L: up to 20 GHz
  • 16. Probe Factor Probe factor: Provide probe factor SmartScan imports probe factor SmartScan measures and calculates system factor 10 8 Measured Probe Factor Theoretical Open-Circuit Probe Factor 10 9 10 10 50 40 30 20 Frequency [Hz] |PF| [dB(A/m)/V] * EMI Hx 2 mm 15
  • 17. Other Methods of Data Presentation • How other people characterize their probes? • How the characterization data is presented? • Is their data presentation fair? 16
  • 18. Example* of 10 kHz (?) to 6 GHz Probe Data Presentation 17 Let’s analyze the data! Extract * Aprel: http://media.wix.com/ugd/36d46a_46d2902bfdd24c25b401582e6a488370.pdf
  • 19. Is Freq Scale OK? 18 Let’s analyze the data!
  • 20. Is Freq Scale OK? 19 Let’s analyze the data! Why the freq axis of extracted data don’t match?! Let’s see!
  • 21. Is Freq Scale OK? 20 Why all ticks are 0.99999 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.3 GHz 1.1 GHz equal?! Well, not a big deal. Maybe just a typo!
  • 22. Lower Frequencies 21 Why all ticks are equal?! Well, not a big deal. Maybe just a typo!
  • 23. Lower Frequencies 22 Why all ticks are equal?! Well, not a big deal. Maybe just a typo! What happened to lower freqs?! Is it extrapolated or really measured? What is the measurement instrument setup (IF BW, span, no. of points, etc.) to measure down to 10 kHz? Is it a “practical” setup?
  • 24. Plot It Differently 23 4 -40 -60 -80 -100 10 10 5 10 6 10 7 10 8 10 9 -120 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] What if we plot it in a different way (log freq)?
  • 25. Plot It Differently 24 What if we plot it in a different way (log freq)? -40 -60 -80 -100 10 4 10 5 10 6 10 7 10 8 10 9 -120 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] 20 dB/dec Line The probe is NOT purely inductive at lower freqs (as claimed). Is it probe issue? Or, measurement issue? Or, simply not extrapolated the right way? Note: Simple extrapolation (even if it is done the right way) does NOT mean probe can measure down to that freq!
  • 26. How about 10 kHz to 20 GHz (?) Probe? 25 Let’s analyze the data! Extract
  • 27. Flat Response (?) 26 Let’s analyze the data!
  • 28. Flat Response (?) 27 Let’s analyze the data! The data is from -30 dB to -60 dB. Why the scale is from 0 to -180 dB?! Well, it looks better* this way! :-) *“flat response across the frequency range”
  • 29. Plot It Differently 28 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 1.2 1.4 1.6 1.8 2 x 10 10 -30 -35 -40 -45 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] What if we plot it in a different way (tight scale)?
  • 30. Plot It Differently 29 What if we plot it in a different way (log freq)? 8 -30 -35 -40 -45 10 10 9 10 10 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB]
  • 31. Plot It Differently 30 What if we plot it in a different way (log freq)? 8 -30 -35 -40 -45 10 10 9 10 10 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] 20 dB/dec Line The lower freqs seems to be fine for this prob. The deviation might be just data extraction error.
  • 32. 8 -30 -35 -40 -45 10 10 9 10 10 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] 20 dB/dec Line Higher Frequencies 31 How about the higher freqs? There is about 20 dB notch @ 13 GHz! A deep notch is usually a BIG red flag for “unwanted field” coupling!
  • 33. Higher Frequencies 32 The question is: How to make sure this probe measures the “desired field” up to 20 GHz (as claimed)? The “unwanted field” decoupling data of probe need to be provided. This probe is suspected to work <10 GHz, unless the rejection info is available!
  • 34. 10 kHz to 40 GHz Probe 33 Let’s analyze the data! Extract
  • 35. Flat Response (?) 34 Let’s analyze the data!
  • 36. Flat Response (?) 35 Let’s analyze the data! Same question: The data is from -35 dB to -55 dB. Why the scale is from 0 to -120 dB?!
  • 37. Plot It Differently Single Probe Solution (?) 36 What if we plot it in a different way (tight scale and log freq)? 10 10.2 10 10.3 10 10.4 10 10.5 10.6 10 -35 -40 -45 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB]
  • 38. Plot It Differently Single Probe Solution (?) 37 What if we plot it in a different way (tight scale and log freq)? 10 10.2 10 10.3 10 10.4 10 10.5 10.6 10 -35 -40 -45 -50 Frequency [Hz] |S21| [dB] This info is NOT sufficient to evaluate the probe up to 40 GHz! The “unwanted field” decoupling data of probe need to be provided. What does happen to lower freqs? Does this probe have sufficient sensitivity to measure down to 10 kHz?!
  • 39. Another Example* of Data Presentation * Detectus AB: http://www.detectus.se/products_nearfieldprobes.html 38
  • 40. Another Example* of Data Presentation Again, the data is from -30 dB to -60 dB. Why the scale is from 0 to -60 dB?! Without unwanted field data, there is no sufficient info to evaluate the probe. Log freq scale is required for low freq evaluation. * Detectus AB: http://www.detectus.se/products_nearfieldprobes.html 39
  • 41. What to Look for in Probe Characterization Data? • Unwanted field rejection data need to be provided to determine higher usable freq. • Is lower usable freq achievable in a “practical” setup? • Is the probe purely inductive/capacitive at lower freqs? • Is the characterization structure (MSL, CPW, etc.) suitable for freq of interest? • What is the measurement setup/condition? • Is the scale proportional to data range? 40
  • 42. 41 Questions? Contact us: amberpi@amberpi.com www.amberpi.com