Space between two notes:Dissonance in healthcare encountersSuzana Makowski, MD MMM FACPAssistant Professor of MedicinePalliative CareUMass Medical School, UMass Memorial Healthcare
My life is not this steeply sloping hour In which you see me hurrying. Much stands behind me; I stand before it like a tree; (and you look like a tree there, for a moment) I stand before it like a tree;I am only one of my many mouths,and at that, the one that would be still the soonest.(By this time the person you ran into is backingoff down the corridor. Then you follow them, and you say,)I am the rest between two notes,which are somehow always in discordbecause Death's note wants to climb over—but in the dark interval, reconciled,they stay there, trembling,                  		And the song goes on, beautiful.(from Selected Poems of Rainer Maria Rilke (Translated by Robert Bly)
DissonanceLet me explain dissonance. Dissonance can be described as notes whose frequencies are less than "harmonious” to our ears.For instance, playing notes that are one half-step apart (open first-string E played with the fourth fret of the second string, a D#) is considered dissonant by most people. Playing notes that are a major seventh interval apart, 11 frets, is also considered to be quite dissonant; for instance, play the open second string (B) together with the 6th fret of the first string (A#).However, dissonance is a requisite part of most music that we hear, providing it with "tension" that leads to "release. "Without it, we end up with music that tends to command little attention.- Mark Hanson
Dissonance
How are we taught?Official teachingsUnofficial teachingsPatient encountersColleaguesInterdisciplinary interactions
The physician-patient encounterBad News in the ERThe serious young doctor started the story at the beginning.“Your son was at a concert when he collapsed.”Can I see him? “An ambulance was called. EMTs started CPR.”Where is he? “They tried to revive him, but got no response.”Please... “They brought him here. We worked a long time.”Oh God. “We didn’t want to give up. He was so young.”I searched the doctor for sorrow found a stoic earnestness. He ended with an apology.“I’m so sorry,” he said, as if he’d hurt my feelings, as if I could forgive him.Alchemy of Grief – Emily FerraraFirst published in Family Medicine
I have spoken… 				I have heard
Difficult encountersThe meaning of distress is as important as the symptoms themselves. – Eric CassellCuriosity: with where this is coming from,how despair will manifest, and how/whether resolve will follow.“There is only one way to understand the other person’s story, and that is by being curious. Instead of asking yourself, ‘How can they think that?!’ ask yourself, “I wonder what information they have that I don’t?’… Certainty locks us out of their story, curiosity leads us in.”(page 37 – Difficult Conversations)
Lessons from Mahler and Brahms
Dissonance - ResolutionReflection on listening to Dr. O’Reilly speak of Mahler and when you listened to Brahm’s:Act of listeningWhat happened in the piece?What did you experience?“Something about Music directly links us to the Eternal, the Divine, the Spiritual. […] It’s the sense of awe that is awakened in us at moments in life when something helps us get in touch with the fact that the material world is just the smallest part of the wonder of it all. So I think healing has to do with slowing down, coming into the present, listening, accepting, forgiving, entering into community with, and healing is prevented by the opposites of those things.” - Balfour Mount, MD
“Good listening requires an open and honest curiosity about the other person, and a willingness and ability to keep the spotlight on them. Buried emotions draw the spotlight back to us...Our listening ability often increases remarkably once we have expressed our own strong feelings.” (page 90 - Difficult Conversations)
Outside the patient’s room…Other physicians,Nurses, social workers,Administrators…How do these principles apply?
Ladder of Inference – Peter SengeFifth Discipline Fieldbook, 1994“We all have different stories about the world because we each take in different information and then interpret this information in our own unique ways.In difficult conversations, too often we trade only conclusions back and forth, without stepping down to where most of the real action is: the information and interpretations that lead each of us to see the world as we do.”(page 31 Difficult Conversations)
Dissonance and EmpathyWhat is our role?To be honestTo lend strength and alleviate sufferingHow do we not burn out?Exquisite empathySelf-awareness practiceSolitudeKearney MK, Weininger RB, Vachon ML, Harrison RL, Mount BM. Self-care of physicians caring for patients at the end of life: "Being connected... a key to my survival". JAMA 2009 Mar 18;301(11):1155-64, E1.
The Prerequisite to Practice:It’s more than “self-care”Mindfulness practices/compassion practice: meditation, music…Story-tellingNarrativesMedical HumanitiesSolitude, reflectionStudy (Lutz, Davidson) showed that long-term meditators on compassion’s response to vicarious suffering surprising.
On Breaking Bad Newsafter William Carlos WilliamsNourish the subtle body between“I” doctor, and “Thou” patient.Tend not to the news—for lackof what is found there (men dieevery day)—but to what is foundbetween.  The unarticulatedfear, sadness palpable in the deepeningdark, broken by touch, eyes brimminghollyhocks, double-blossomed whiteand multiple magentas take breathgive life, subtle body, what is foundis nourished, is all we have. Lean in.By Emily Ferrara – used by permission. Not in print.
Some Resourceshttp://www.upaya.org/bwd/http://litmed.med.nyu.edu/Main?action=newhttp://www.umassmed.edu/Content.aspx?id=41252http://pallimed.org Cassell EJ. AAHPM annual meeting 2009. http://www.aahpm.org/education/09conf/09highlights.html#nature Ferrara E. The alchemy of grief : alchimia del dolore, traduzionedisabinepascarelli. 1st ed. New York, NY: Bordighera Press; 2007.Goleman D. Emotional intelligence. Bantam 10th anniversary hardcover ed. New York: Bantam Books; 2006. Kearney MK, Weininger RB, Vachon ML, Harrison RL, Mount BM. Self-care of physicians caring for patients at the end of life: "Being connected... a key to my survival". JAMA2009 Mar 18;301(11):1155-64, E1. Lutz A, et al. Regulation of the Neural Circuitry of Emotion by Compassion Meditation: Effects of Meditative Expertise. PLoS ONE; 2008. http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/pubs/2008/LutzRegulationPLoSONE.pdfMartensen RL. A life worth living : a doctor's reflections on illness in a high-tech era. 1st ed. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux; 2008.Nepo M. The exquisite risk : daring to live an authentic life. 1st ed. New York: Harmony Books; 2005.Stone D, Patton B, Heen S. Difficult conversations : how to discuss what matters most. New York, N.Y.: Viking; 1999.Drazen RY.  A Wayfarer's Journey: Listening to Mahler (movie)

More Related Content

PPTX
Dissonance in healthcare
DOC
The toad of revelations
DOC
The toad of revelations
PDF
Together AZ - August 2010
PPT
Dyads in Palliative Care: The Art and Science of What We Do
PPTX
Aahpm3.10 mindfulness
PPT
Session C - The use of self as a guide to sensitive and compassionate communi...
Dissonance in healthcare
The toad of revelations
The toad of revelations
Together AZ - August 2010
Dyads in Palliative Care: The Art and Science of What We Do
Aahpm3.10 mindfulness
Session C - The use of self as a guide to sensitive and compassionate communi...

Similar to Space Between Two Notes: Dissonance in Healthcare Encounters by Makowski (20)

PPTX
Many Faces of Moral Distress: Maintaining Professionalism in the IDT - AAHPM2012
PPT
Meditation + guided imagery field guide
PPT
Self Care As The 6th Vital Sign Sample
PPT
Self Care as a Vital Sign--sample
PDF
Grief, Loss and Transformation - Skills and Materials
PPTX
History taking and examination in Palliative care
PPTX
What Really Matters
PPTX
Meeting People Where They Are: Taking Spiritual Assessment - Tessie Mandevill...
PDF
Palliative Care: Science & Spirit Together Again
PPTX
Spiritual care at End of Life
PPTX
Mindfulness & Grief: The Transformative Power of Now (2014 ADEC Presentation)
PDF
The Heart of Grief
PPTX
AETCOM 2.8(Dr Rahul saini,Professor,Pharmacology,BPS ,Govt,medical college
PDF
Compassion fatigue in the animal care community glickman1
PDF
Mindfulness & Grief: The Transformative Power of Now
PPTX
Meg Hegarty - Creativity and Dying: Communication in Caring for the Spirit at...
PPTX
Healers on healing
PPTX
carenetmindofart
PPTX
Living with Mortality and Finding Meaning
PPTX
palliative_care - it's role in cancer management
Many Faces of Moral Distress: Maintaining Professionalism in the IDT - AAHPM2012
Meditation + guided imagery field guide
Self Care As The 6th Vital Sign Sample
Self Care as a Vital Sign--sample
Grief, Loss and Transformation - Skills and Materials
History taking and examination in Palliative care
What Really Matters
Meeting People Where They Are: Taking Spiritual Assessment - Tessie Mandevill...
Palliative Care: Science & Spirit Together Again
Spiritual care at End of Life
Mindfulness & Grief: The Transformative Power of Now (2014 ADEC Presentation)
The Heart of Grief
AETCOM 2.8(Dr Rahul saini,Professor,Pharmacology,BPS ,Govt,medical college
Compassion fatigue in the animal care community glickman1
Mindfulness & Grief: The Transformative Power of Now
Meg Hegarty - Creativity and Dying: Communication in Caring for the Spirit at...
Healers on healing
carenetmindofart
Living with Mortality and Finding Meaning
palliative_care - it's role in cancer management
Ad

More from American Academy on Communication in Healthcare (AACH) (16)

PPTX
TRAINING FOR IMPROVING EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION SKILLS IN PHARMACY:DEVELOPMENT...
PPT
PLAIN Health Indicators from an intercultural study in Health Literacy & Adhe...
PPT
Attending To Presence: Improving Physicians’ Interpersonal and Professional W...
PPT
PPT
I don’t know why I’m in the hospital! Patient-Doctor Diagnostic Concordance b...
PPT
Physician-Patient Email by Wieczorek
PPT
Communicating in a Technical World: Physician-Patient Challenges in Rural Ame...
PPT
Software Assisted Call Analysis by Hans L. Trinkaus and Andrea E. Gaisser
PPT
Counselees’ use and evaluation of a website providing computer-tailored infor...
PPTX
Using the Communication Assessment Tool (CAT) to Assess Communication Skills ...
PPTX
Different Narratives In Different Doctor Patient Relationships by Sofie Davidsen
PPT
Training Residents and Nurses as Patient-Centered Care Teams by Smith, Dwamen...
PPT
PPT
PPT
TRAINING FOR IMPROVING EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION SKILLS IN PHARMACY:DEVELOPMENT...
PLAIN Health Indicators from an intercultural study in Health Literacy & Adhe...
Attending To Presence: Improving Physicians’ Interpersonal and Professional W...
I don’t know why I’m in the hospital! Patient-Doctor Diagnostic Concordance b...
Physician-Patient Email by Wieczorek
Communicating in a Technical World: Physician-Patient Challenges in Rural Ame...
Software Assisted Call Analysis by Hans L. Trinkaus and Andrea E. Gaisser
Counselees’ use and evaluation of a website providing computer-tailored infor...
Using the Communication Assessment Tool (CAT) to Assess Communication Skills ...
Different Narratives In Different Doctor Patient Relationships by Sofie Davidsen
Training Residents and Nurses as Patient-Centered Care Teams by Smith, Dwamen...
Ad

Recently uploaded (20)

PPTX
Vaccines and immunization including cold chain , Open vial policy.pptx
PPTX
Acute Coronary Syndrome for Cardiology Conference
PDF
OSCE SERIES ( Questions & Answers ) - Set 5.pdf
PPTX
thio and propofol mechanism and uses.pptx
PDF
Comparison of Swim-Up and Microfluidic Sperm Sorting.pdf
PPTX
Neoplasia III.pptxjhghgjhfj fjfhgfgdfdfsrbvhv
PDF
OSCE Series Set 1 ( Questions & Answers ).pdf
PDF
The Digestive System Science Educational Presentation in Dark Orange, Blue, a...
PDF
OSCE SERIES - Set 7 ( Questions & Answers ).pdf
PPT
neurology Member of Royal College of Physicians (MRCP).ppt
PPT
Infections Member of Royal College of Physicians.ppt
PDF
Transcultural that can help you someday.
PPTX
IMAGING EQUIPMENiiiiìiiiiiTpptxeiuueueur
PDF
04 dr. Rahajeng - dr.rahajeng-KOGI XIX 2025-ed1.pdf
PPTX
Introduction to Medical Microbiology for 400L Medical Students
PPT
Dermatology for member of royalcollege.ppt
PDF
MNEMONICS MNEMONICS MNEMONICS MNEMONICS s
PDF
Copy of OB - Exam #2 Study Guide. pdf
PPTX
Reading between the Rings: Imaging in Brain Infections
PPTX
Human Reproduction: Anatomy, Physiology & Clinical Insights.pptx
Vaccines and immunization including cold chain , Open vial policy.pptx
Acute Coronary Syndrome for Cardiology Conference
OSCE SERIES ( Questions & Answers ) - Set 5.pdf
thio and propofol mechanism and uses.pptx
Comparison of Swim-Up and Microfluidic Sperm Sorting.pdf
Neoplasia III.pptxjhghgjhfj fjfhgfgdfdfsrbvhv
OSCE Series Set 1 ( Questions & Answers ).pdf
The Digestive System Science Educational Presentation in Dark Orange, Blue, a...
OSCE SERIES - Set 7 ( Questions & Answers ).pdf
neurology Member of Royal College of Physicians (MRCP).ppt
Infections Member of Royal College of Physicians.ppt
Transcultural that can help you someday.
IMAGING EQUIPMENiiiiìiiiiiTpptxeiuueueur
04 dr. Rahajeng - dr.rahajeng-KOGI XIX 2025-ed1.pdf
Introduction to Medical Microbiology for 400L Medical Students
Dermatology for member of royalcollege.ppt
MNEMONICS MNEMONICS MNEMONICS MNEMONICS s
Copy of OB - Exam #2 Study Guide. pdf
Reading between the Rings: Imaging in Brain Infections
Human Reproduction: Anatomy, Physiology & Clinical Insights.pptx

Space Between Two Notes: Dissonance in Healthcare Encounters by Makowski

  • 1. Space between two notes:Dissonance in healthcare encountersSuzana Makowski, MD MMM FACPAssistant Professor of MedicinePalliative CareUMass Medical School, UMass Memorial Healthcare
  • 2. My life is not this steeply sloping hour In which you see me hurrying. Much stands behind me; I stand before it like a tree; (and you look like a tree there, for a moment) I stand before it like a tree;I am only one of my many mouths,and at that, the one that would be still the soonest.(By this time the person you ran into is backingoff down the corridor. Then you follow them, and you say,)I am the rest between two notes,which are somehow always in discordbecause Death's note wants to climb over—but in the dark interval, reconciled,they stay there, trembling,                   And the song goes on, beautiful.(from Selected Poems of Rainer Maria Rilke (Translated by Robert Bly)
  • 3. DissonanceLet me explain dissonance. Dissonance can be described as notes whose frequencies are less than "harmonious” to our ears.For instance, playing notes that are one half-step apart (open first-string E played with the fourth fret of the second string, a D#) is considered dissonant by most people. Playing notes that are a major seventh interval apart, 11 frets, is also considered to be quite dissonant; for instance, play the open second string (B) together with the 6th fret of the first string (A#).However, dissonance is a requisite part of most music that we hear, providing it with "tension" that leads to "release. "Without it, we end up with music that tends to command little attention.- Mark Hanson
  • 5. How are we taught?Official teachingsUnofficial teachingsPatient encountersColleaguesInterdisciplinary interactions
  • 6. The physician-patient encounterBad News in the ERThe serious young doctor started the story at the beginning.“Your son was at a concert when he collapsed.”Can I see him? “An ambulance was called. EMTs started CPR.”Where is he? “They tried to revive him, but got no response.”Please... “They brought him here. We worked a long time.”Oh God. “We didn’t want to give up. He was so young.”I searched the doctor for sorrow found a stoic earnestness. He ended with an apology.“I’m so sorry,” he said, as if he’d hurt my feelings, as if I could forgive him.Alchemy of Grief – Emily FerraraFirst published in Family Medicine
  • 7. I have spoken… I have heard
  • 8. Difficult encountersThe meaning of distress is as important as the symptoms themselves. – Eric CassellCuriosity: with where this is coming from,how despair will manifest, and how/whether resolve will follow.“There is only one way to understand the other person’s story, and that is by being curious. Instead of asking yourself, ‘How can they think that?!’ ask yourself, “I wonder what information they have that I don’t?’… Certainty locks us out of their story, curiosity leads us in.”(page 37 – Difficult Conversations)
  • 10. Dissonance - ResolutionReflection on listening to Dr. O’Reilly speak of Mahler and when you listened to Brahm’s:Act of listeningWhat happened in the piece?What did you experience?“Something about Music directly links us to the Eternal, the Divine, the Spiritual. […] It’s the sense of awe that is awakened in us at moments in life when something helps us get in touch with the fact that the material world is just the smallest part of the wonder of it all. So I think healing has to do with slowing down, coming into the present, listening, accepting, forgiving, entering into community with, and healing is prevented by the opposites of those things.” - Balfour Mount, MD
  • 11. “Good listening requires an open and honest curiosity about the other person, and a willingness and ability to keep the spotlight on them. Buried emotions draw the spotlight back to us...Our listening ability often increases remarkably once we have expressed our own strong feelings.” (page 90 - Difficult Conversations)
  • 12. Outside the patient’s room…Other physicians,Nurses, social workers,Administrators…How do these principles apply?
  • 13. Ladder of Inference – Peter SengeFifth Discipline Fieldbook, 1994“We all have different stories about the world because we each take in different information and then interpret this information in our own unique ways.In difficult conversations, too often we trade only conclusions back and forth, without stepping down to where most of the real action is: the information and interpretations that lead each of us to see the world as we do.”(page 31 Difficult Conversations)
  • 14. Dissonance and EmpathyWhat is our role?To be honestTo lend strength and alleviate sufferingHow do we not burn out?Exquisite empathySelf-awareness practiceSolitudeKearney MK, Weininger RB, Vachon ML, Harrison RL, Mount BM. Self-care of physicians caring for patients at the end of life: "Being connected... a key to my survival". JAMA 2009 Mar 18;301(11):1155-64, E1.
  • 15. The Prerequisite to Practice:It’s more than “self-care”Mindfulness practices/compassion practice: meditation, music…Story-tellingNarrativesMedical HumanitiesSolitude, reflectionStudy (Lutz, Davidson) showed that long-term meditators on compassion’s response to vicarious suffering surprising.
  • 16. On Breaking Bad Newsafter William Carlos WilliamsNourish the subtle body between“I” doctor, and “Thou” patient.Tend not to the news—for lackof what is found there (men dieevery day)—but to what is foundbetween. The unarticulatedfear, sadness palpable in the deepeningdark, broken by touch, eyes brimminghollyhocks, double-blossomed whiteand multiple magentas take breathgive life, subtle body, what is foundis nourished, is all we have. Lean in.By Emily Ferrara – used by permission. Not in print.
  • 17. Some Resourceshttp://www.upaya.org/bwd/http://litmed.med.nyu.edu/Main?action=newhttp://www.umassmed.edu/Content.aspx?id=41252http://pallimed.org Cassell EJ. AAHPM annual meeting 2009. http://www.aahpm.org/education/09conf/09highlights.html#nature Ferrara E. The alchemy of grief : alchimia del dolore, traduzionedisabinepascarelli. 1st ed. New York, NY: Bordighera Press; 2007.Goleman D. Emotional intelligence. Bantam 10th anniversary hardcover ed. New York: Bantam Books; 2006. Kearney MK, Weininger RB, Vachon ML, Harrison RL, Mount BM. Self-care of physicians caring for patients at the end of life: "Being connected... a key to my survival". JAMA2009 Mar 18;301(11):1155-64, E1. Lutz A, et al. Regulation of the Neural Circuitry of Emotion by Compassion Meditation: Effects of Meditative Expertise. PLoS ONE; 2008. http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/pubs/2008/LutzRegulationPLoSONE.pdfMartensen RL. A life worth living : a doctor's reflections on illness in a high-tech era. 1st ed. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux; 2008.Nepo M. The exquisite risk : daring to live an authentic life. 1st ed. New York: Harmony Books; 2005.Stone D, Patton B, Heen S. Difficult conversations : how to discuss what matters most. New York, N.Y.: Viking; 1999.Drazen RY. A Wayfarer's Journey: Listening to Mahler (movie)

Editor's Notes

  • #5: Discussion with audience – what is their view of dissonance? Conflict? Can we come to a common understanding?Discomfort in ourselves? In the other? In both?Words, settings, witnessing suffering… Feelings are what define this… “Dying” “will die” “Cancer” “Spread” – how do they feel compared with “metatastasized” “treat”
  • #6: Exercise on what have you done well? Seen done well? Delivery of news, etc. Diads – dialogues. Experiencing counsel.
  • #9: Describe types of encounters… Like the discus thrower, the cake eater… (Kelly’s patient), the patient who wanted to go home.
  • #10: Click clip from DVD player first if possible video clip 4
  • #11: What would have happened if it were just the last stanza? Without the dissonance?
  • #12: This time, turn back to the diad – tell a different story. This time, share a story of a tough incident: witnessed or experienced. Something you feel ok sharing here, now. Remember, listener, your role: to hold these words in complete confidence, to listen, to watch. Don’t touch. Try not to give too many non-verbal cues. Simply watch. Notice what comes up inside of you and in the person before you. Be aware. Be present. When done speaking, simply say, “I have spoken.” After, listener, respond with, “I have heard.” Then change the role.
  • #13: Nurse who feared the morphine…Physician who feared stopping the IV antibiotics…Clinician who changed the goals of care… confusing all…