Take the advantage and connect upstream to downstream
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This document discusses strategies for connecting open source upstream projects with downstream products. It defines upstream as the development of the open source project and downstream as how the project is integrated into products. It then provides advice for different roles on how to engage with the open source community in a way that benefits both the community and their products.
Take the advantage and connect upstream to downstream
- 1. 讓開源雲端與產品接軌 Take the Advantage and connect upstream to downstream Rico Lin, Software Engineer @ EasyStack OpenStack Heat PTL
- 5. Upstream Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Product plan User feedback c6c5 c7 M-3M-5 c8
- 6. Upstream Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 Master Product plan M-1 User feedback c6c5 c10 c9 c8c7 User feedback M-3M-5 c11
- 7. Upstream Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Product plan User feedback c6c5 c10 c9 c8c7 User feedback M-3M-5 c11
- 9. You Need a Strategy!!!!
- 10. Define Strategy
- 11. link 孫子兵法, 始計篇
- 12. So That's The Basic Model For You! (And For Community)
- 13. Your Enterprise Community There are feedins and There are feedbacks
- 14. Your Enterprise Community That's ECOSYSTEM
- 15. When Two Forces Can Accelerate Each Other, That's (More than) the Definition of PERPETUAL MOTION
- 16. Propose spec & bug Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Contribute Product plan User feedback c6c5 Propose to upstream c10 c9 c8c7 pull & Integrate c11 c12 Product plan User feedback Upstream Feedback
- 17. Take from community: ● A comparing place, the ring I'm a Product
- 18. I'm a Product Take from community: ● A comparing place, the ring Common Questions: ● I don't care about community when I'm a product. ● Product and Open Source project are two conflict concept
- 19. I'm a Product Take from community: ● A comparing place, the ring Common Questions: ● I don't care about community when I'm a product. ● Product and Open Source project are two conflict concept Actions or Keep in mind: ● Integration happens fast, the request always urgent, there is room for done the third step first, but if you never go back ASAP to fill up the first and second step, you not actually doing anything ● User experience alway matters, that's the rule ● Upstream is not a product (even it's production ready) ● Aware about the licence ● good product sells itself, but people always is the root ● Don't waste opportunities to new things, but don't go rush ● Don't mess up with your structure, it will crush. ● Make your strategy, execute it, and adjust your strategy nicely.
- 20. I'm Enterprise owner (CXO) Take from community: ● Good reputation ● More chances to make buessness deal ● Making spec as you needed
- 21. I'm Enterprise owner (CXO) Take from community: ● Good reputation ● More chances to make buessness deal ● Making spec as you needed Common Questions: ● How's that gonna make renvenue? ● Why should I feedback? Why me? ● This just some works for my engineer, not me!
- 22. I'm Enterprise owner (CXO) Take from community: ● Good reputation ● More chances to make buessness deal ● Making spec as you needed Common Questions: ● How's that gonna make renvenue? ● Why should I feedback? Why me? ● This just some works for my engineer, not me! Actions: ● Allow people to join community ● Control the quality ● Join The Enterprise owner cercle ● Control quantity of spend ● Speak to other owners who seems to make it ● Support local events, and partners and let it support you
- 23. I'm a Manager Take from community: ● A stage for manager to present with customers in front of other potential customers. ● Protential customers in marketing place
- 24. I'm a Manager Take from community: ● A stage for manager to present with customers in front of other potential customers. ● Protential customers in marketing place Common Questions: ● None of my client stay in the area where community events were hosted ● I simply needs the product released ASAP, why should I care others
- 25. I'm a Manager Take from community: ● A stage for manager to present with customers in front of other potential customers. ● Protential customers in marketing place Common Questions: ● None of my client stay in the area where community events were hosted ● I simply needs the product released ASAP, why should I care others Actions: ● Help operators and developers learn about user’s needs ● Support Technical team to build CI/CD and work for community ● Let customers feel they’re part of this ecosystem, not just your master. Let them join User survey, give presentations with you to binding each other ● Do marketing place like you do in front of customers ● go talk to developers
- 26. I'm a Technical Leader Take from community: ● Place to push the skill of developers/ops ● Knew what other companies been doing and where are the dead end or pain point ● Control the developing flow of an open source
- 27. I'm a Technical Leader Take from community: ● Place to push the skill of developers/ops ● Knew what other companies been doing and where are the dead end or pain point ● Control the developing flow of an open source Common Questions: ● To send developers in, gonna leave them un-control ● I can't control the community ● How's that going to serve our products ● We shouldn't share the secret of our business
- 28. I'm a Technical Leader Take from community: ● Place to push the skill of developers/ops ● Knew what other companies been doing and where are the dead end or pain point ● Control the developing flow of an open source Common Questions: ● To send developers in, gonna leave them un-control ● I can't control the community ● How's that going to serve our products ● We shouldn't share the secret of our business Actions: ● Build CI/CD for your products (I mean real CI/CD) ● Make developers/ops do meaningful contribution ● Partially reveal/release your technical power. Keep the core knowledge as your wish. ● Adopt changes, experiment integration and survey ● Allow developer have time to share and do documentation ● Observe How's a staff doing in Community and Products
- 29. I'm a Engineer Take from community: ● Better develop skill ● Good developer experiences on real world issues ● Work with global team ● Prevent bad decision for development
- 30. I'm a Engineer Take from community: ● Better develop skill ● Good developer experiences on real world issues ● Work with global team ● Prevent bad decision for development Common Questions: ● Where I can trace these code? ● I don't feel I can do what I want in that project team
- 31. I'm a Engineer Take from community: ● Better develop skill ● Good developer experiences on real world issues ● Work with global team ● Prevent bad decision for development Common Questions: ● Where I can trace these code? ● I don't feel I can do what I want in that project team Actions: ● There's always test for your code ● Bring discussion to community ● Don't try to reinvent stuff unless you can prove with tests ● Allow rooms as buffer from product to community, but make it as small as possible ● Go deep ● Go talk to others ● Really join community, fix real issues, join discussions, provide ideas, do review, speak, and speak loud!
- 32. I'm an Operator( or MIS) Take from community: ● Observe other people's experiences ● Go bother the best you know ● Make them work for your integration
- 33. I'm an Operator( or MIS) Take from community: ● Observe other people's experiences ● Go bother the best you know ● Make them work for your integration Common Questions: ● I'm operate my own system, what's that have to do with community? ● From ops point of view, it's really not clear what is what ● I hard a lot of `This is another team's issue`, not ours
- 34. I'm an Operator( or MIS) Take from community: ● Observe other people's experiences ● Go bother the best you know ● Make them work for your integration Common Questions: ● I'm operate my own system, what's that have to do with community? ● From ops point of view, it's really not clear what is what ● I hard a lot of `This is another team's issue`, not ours Actions: ● Be a devops ● Provide feedback ● go talk to developers ● ducument matters
- 35. I'm an Intern/Student Take from community: ● Learn from the best ● No binding for you in community
- 36. I'm an Intern/Student Take from community: ● Learn from the best ● No binding for you in community Common Questions: ● I'm just a student ● I'm still wondering what I want
- 37. I'm an Intern/Student Take from community: ● Learn from the best ● No binding for you in community Common Questions: ● I'm just a student ● I'm still wondering what I want Actions: ● Learn English ● Learn the spirit of Open Source ● Learn less than two languages ● Treat you self as a serious role ● Go talk to everyone ● Stay with Open Source Community
- 39. Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c2 c3 Master Product plan
- 40. Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 Master Contribute Product plan User feedback
- 41. Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 Master Contribute Product plan User feedback c6c5 Propose to upstream c10 c9 c8c7 User feedback
- 42. Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Contribute Product plan User feedback c6c5 Propose to upstream c10 c9 c8c7 Product plan User feedback
- 43. Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Contribute Product plan User feedback c6c5 Propose to upstream c10 c9 c8c7 pull & Integrate Product plan User feedback
- 44. Propose spec & bug Upstream Check & Gate Production Downstream c1 c4c2 c3 MasterM-1 Contribute Product plan User feedback c6c5 Propose to upstream c10 c9 c8c7 pull & Integrate Product plan User feedback
- 45. Don't put all eggs in one basket
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