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CR & DM in PT_English
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intro
CLINICAL
REASONING
in PHYSICAL
THERAPY
Pablo C. García Sánchez
OMT1
clinical
reasoning
The thinking
underpinning the clinical
practice
Cognitive, intuitive and
mental operations,
which lead to decision
making processes at
clinical health field
What is for you?
Everybody confront
clinical problems in a
similar way, but with
different approach
and usually different
results
INTUITION
(fordward)
REFLEXION
(backward)
INDUCTION
PROSPECTIVE
Experts in front of
well-known problems
FORWARD
DEDUCTIVE
BAYESIAN
ANALITIC
Novels & Experts in
front of new
problems
BACKWARD
intuitive reflective
2 systems
Do they interact?
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continuumPure
intuitive
Pure
reflective
How reliable is it?
How many animals traveled with Moises in the arch?
How many animals traveled with Moises in the arch?
A. Less than 1000
B. Between 1000-5000
C. Between 5000-10000
Noah did…
How reliable is it?
intuitive reflective
attention
decision
mixdetection
& memory
Who is the
boss?
problem solution
It is LESS important
how much knowledge
do U have inside…
...is MORE important
how it is built and
connected
Knowledge
Propositional
knowledge
“knowing that”
Research
Evidence
Non-
propositional
knowledge
Craft
knowledge
Personal
knowledge
Three Forms of Knowledge Essential, Higgs and Titchen, 1995
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Knowledge
Theory
Memorized
Reasoned
Practice
Learned Repeated
Reasoned
Craft
Knowledge is stored in the brain in chunks or data-boxes
This store way facilitate thinking and improve communication
Signs Symptoms
Personal
remembering
Images
This is what are we going to call “categories”
Pathobiological
mechanisms
Physical
impairments
and associated
structure/tissue
sources
TISSUE
STRUCTURE
HEALING
phase
Contributing
factors
YELLOW flags
Precautions &
contraindication
P/E & Rx
Activity and
Participation
capability/restri
ction
Management,
treatment &
prognosis
Patient’s
perspectives on
their experience
Jones, M. and D. A. Rivett (2004). "Introduction to clinical reasoning." Clinical
reasoning for manual therapists: 3-24.
CATEGORIES
Pathobiolog
ical
mechanism
s
Physical
impairment
s and
associated
structure/tis
sue
sources
TISSUE
STRUCTU
RE
HEALING
phase
Contributin
g factors
YELLOW
flags
Precaution
s &
contraindic
ation P/E
& Rx
Activity
and
Participati
on
capability/r
estriction
Managem
ent,
treatment
&
prognosis
Patient’s
perspectiv
es on their
experience
Data acquisition
Association of RELATED data of DIFFERENT categories
build CLINICAL PATTERNS
white
• Parallel nerve trunks
• Weakness
• Pins & Needles
• “Ants running”
• Worst at night
Association of RELATED data of DIFFERENT categories
build CLINICAL PATTERNS
• Pain
• Heat
• Redness
• Tumor
• Functional deficit
• Improve with cold and
NSAID
• Worst with movement
inflammation
neurogenic
pain
What are we going to do with this knowledge?
intuition
cognition
We´ll do it
nonconciously…
Which ones?
Discuss it 3´with your
partner
What are we going to do with this knowledge?
cognition
Mental processes list:
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
Anything else?
metacognition
“Awareness and ability to think about your thinking”
Wanna share any examples with the class?
Inductive reasoning
Reflective BEFORE action
Reflective IN action
Reflective AFTER action
Deductive reasoning
Schon, D. A. (1983). La formación de profesionales reflexivos.
Ryan, S. and Higgs J (2008). ”Teaching and learning clinical reasoning." Clinical
reasoning in the health professions: 379-387.
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Errors
Source of
knowledge
Low evidence
Poor research
Physiotherapist
Intuition
Cognitive
Cognition
Metacognition
Assessment
Examination
Tools
Interpretation
Treatment Techniques
Health system
decision
making
The best-judged
action
Treatment / management
Researcher
Patients
Resource$
Teacher
Policy maker
Discrete
Well defined
Amenable to technical
solutions
Complex
Multifactorial
Changing
Poor defined
Patient
Desease
Disfunction
Disability
Bio
Psycho
Social
Diagnostic
Non diagnostic
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0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
EBP
Intuition
Expertise & CR
Pat opinions
Which are the basis of PT decisions?
5%
only take in account patient beliefs in their
decisions
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80
EBP
Intuition
Expertise & CR
Pat opinions
Which are the basis of PT decisions?
15%
only take in account EBP in their decisions
INTUITI
ON
(fordwar
d)
REFLEXION
(backward)
HYPOTHETIC
DEDUCTIVE
Novels & Experts in
front of new
problems
BACKWARD
intuition
reflexion
INTUITION
(fordward)
INDUCTION
PROSPECTIVE
Experts in front of
well-known problems
FORWARD
experience
intuition
cognition
reflective
Educating intuition, Hogarth, 2001 (adapted)
Role Playing activities
Drills in practice
Case studies
Clinical Pattern Booklet
“Overflow/Sublimation of evidence”
How to start to make decisions in
each area/cathegory?
Mechanic Ischemic
On an spot, well
localized area
Improve with
heat
“Overflow/Sublimation of evidence”
Mechanic Ischemic
Mechanic Ischemic
Mechanic Ischemic
Pablo César García Sánchez
https://slowpt.com/
@pcgarcias
pcgarciasanchez@Gmail.com

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CR & DM in PT_English

Editor's Notes

  • #5: Qué espero de la charla: Que através de mostrarles la experiencia del trabajo con el RZ C en la UEM, que al menos cada uno de esos perfiles os llevéis algo para casa
  • #6: Digo lo de memoria de trabajo? Y ya que para muchos de uds este es un tema novedoso quiero que retengan en su memoria de trabajo durante la ponencia esta definición de RzC. Es una definición muy simple, incompleta pero a la que podrán volver siempre que pierdan de vista el concepto de RzC
  • #8: Which is better?
  • #10: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #11: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #12: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #15: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #21: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #22: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #23: ESTO TIENE MUCHO TEXTO…
  • #25: Knowledge: Clasificación y fuentes Three Forms of Knowledge Essential (Higgs & Titchen, 1995): Propositional knowledge “knowing that”: adquired Non-Propositional knowledge Professional craft knowledge “knowing how” allows us to use propositional knowledge in practice Personal knowledge: knowledge acquired through life that shapes personal perspectives, beliefs and attitudes Knowledge linked to practical use (professional/clinical) is more accessible. Knowledge is constantly changing . Sources of knowledge: Research based knowledge Experience based knowledge - critical reflection of your own Knowledge, its basis, the assumptions that underpin your beliefs Requires critical appraisal (research & personal knowledge /reasoning)
  • #26: Niveles
  • #27: Niveles
  • #28: Niveles
  • #30: Patrones clínicos
  • #31: Hypothesis Categories Pathobiological mechanisms Physical impairments and associated structure/tissue sources Activity and Participation capability/restriction Patient’s perspectives on their experience Contributing factors Precautions & contraindications P/E & Rx Management & treatment Prognosis Jones, M. and D. A. Rivett (2004). "Introduction to clinical reasoning." Clinical reasoning for manual therapists: 3-24.
  • #32: Hypothesis Categories Pathobiological mechanisms Physical impairments and associated structure/tissue sources Activity and Participation capability/restriction Patient’s perspectives on their experience Contributing factors Precautions & contraindications P/E & Rx Management & treatment Prognosis Jones, M. and D. A. Rivett (2004). "Introduction to clinical reasoning." Clinical reasoning for manual therapists: 3-24.
  • #33: Estos patrones clínicos forman información prototípica relevante. Y no solo son diagnósticos
  • #34: Estos patrones clínicos forman información prototípica relevante. Y no solo son diagnósticos
  • #35: Estos patrones clínicos forman información prototípica relevante. Y no solo son diagnósticos
  • #37: Estos patrones clínicos forman información prototípica relevante. Y no solo son diagnósticos
  • #38: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #39: Niveles
  • #41: Estos son los perfiles… Relevancia de la charla
  • #42: Cómo son los problemas a los que nos enfrentamos los PT What do you think about time?
  • #43: Y es que luego además los PT nos empeñamos en trabajar con un enfoque b-p-s… Intentamos tener impacto no solo sobre la disfunción, si no también sobre la def y disc… Y además no solo nos centramos en el dx de fisioterapia como bien ha dicho la profesora… si no que enfocamos el tratamiento desde otros puntos de vista
  • #44: Seguro que nos hablan luego…
  • #45: 27 pacientes 26-40 Público y privado
  • #46: Al menos el 5%...
  • #47: 27 pacientes 26-40 Público y privado
  • #48: Al menos el 15%...
  • #49: Which is better?
  • #52: Which is better?
  • #53: Cómo son los problemas a los que nos enfrentamos los PT
  • #54: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #55: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #56: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #57: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #58: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #59: Toma de decisiones por sumación o DESBORDE o SUBLIMACIÓN de evidencia
  • #60: Aprovechar para introducir a SchonError habitual es confundir la prueba práctica con un examen oral
  • #61: Toma de decisiones por sumación o DESBORDE o SUBLIMACIÓN de evidencia
  • #62: Toma de decisiones por sumación o DESBORDE o SUBLIMACIÓN de evidencia
  • #63: Toma de decisiones por sumación o DESBORDE o SUBLIMACIÓN de evidencia
  • #65: Vamos a hablar en esta charla de los 3 primeros