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What Does ‘The Cloud’
Mean for Dynamics?
Chris J.T. Auld
CTO, Executive Director – Intergen

Sam Hazledine
Managing Director - MedRecruit
10 August 2011
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




What We’ll Discuss
 What is ‘The Cloud’
    Generally
    The Microsoft Cloud Platform
 Cloud Benefits
     Promised
     Realized
     The Dynamics Cloud Offerings
 Cloud Challenges
     Getting there
     Security, reliability, legality
 Real World Example: MedRecruit
“Cloud Computing is a model for the procurement
    of computing resources whereby they are
  purchased as a utility and consumed over the
                   Internet.”
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics


Software as a Service                    Platform as a Service
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




What Does it Mean for Dynamics
 Trust Microsoft as a massive cloud vendor
    Sum Business and Consumer services to establish scale
    Global Foundation Services (GFS) run all data centers
    http://www.youtube.com/user/MSGFSTeam
 Plenty of Cloud Bits to Consume
    Even if you don’t consume Dynamics from the cloud
    Office 365, Windows Azure etc…
Cloud Value Proposition

The Why…
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics



      New Economics              Reduced Management             Increased Agility




• Pay for what you use          • No maintenance          • Latest software for users
• Predictable costs             • Faster deployment       • Internet collaboration
• Shift from capital expenses   • Instant upgrades        • Anywhere access
  to operating expenses         • Multilayered security   • Instant self-provisioning
• Economies/Qualities of          framework and backup
  Scale
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




What is driving investment decisions?
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




What are we actually buying?
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Dynamics CRM Online
 1st Class Cloud Support
    Underlying architecture is multi-tenanted
    CRM 2011 is 2nd iteration of Cloud offering
 True Software as a Service
 Near 100% parity between Cloud and On-Premise
 Commitment to release to Cloud first
    New features will land in CRM Online immediately
 Very fast setup
    Up and running in 15 minutes
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Typical Microsoft Dynamics CRM 50 user deploymentDynamics
General costs               On-premise cost
                                            Microsoft
                                                                                     Savings
                                               CRM Online cost
=
 Infrastructure , Hardware
                                             $85,000            Included
 OS’s & maintenance

 CRM Software/ SaaS Fees                     $78,000            $94,000

 Operations (1 day / month)                  $45,000            $45,000

 Total                                      $208,000           $139,000            $69,000

 Per user per month                $115/user/month       $77/user/month     $38/user/month

Back of the Envelope.
Incl. External connector, 3 servers.
Cost of capital: 12%
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Dynamics ERP Online
 Commitment to ship all 4 ERP’s as Online Offerings
    NAV ‘7’ will be first – sometime in 2012
    AX, GP, SL will follow with their next versions
 Caveats
    We don’t know exactly what it will look like yet
    Don’t know how Azure COGs will affect pricing
 Right Now
    SPLA Hosted NAV in Intergen virtualized datacentre
    App-V can deliver additional benefits
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




What Does it Mean for Dynamics Customers
 Office 365 is an easy first step for existing customers
     Light up SharePoint and Lync integration quickly/cheaply
 CRM Online default choice for new deployments
     Cost saving are real and significant
     Migration more nuanced
 Windows Azure ideal for Customer Portals
     Cheap (~$200/month)
     Reliable
     Scalable independent of Dynamics bits
 ‘All in the Cloud’ possible for new businesses
     Office 365 + CRM Online + Windows Azure
 ERP Products still >9 months out for cloud support
     Anticipate more challenges to CRM Online
     Don’t delay ERP investment in anticipation
     Focus on web services based integration
Challenges
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Getting there…
 Migration costs are largely fixed.
  Similar cost to move 10 users as to move 1000 users
 Say it costs $25,000 to move our CRM to Online…
                                                           Cost per Month incl
                   Cost Per Month      Savings Per Month                         Savings per Month
 Number of Users                                              Cost to Move
                    @ $77/user            @ $38/user                                 by moving
                                                            (36mnth@12.5%)

    10 Users           $770                  $380                 $836                ($456)


    100 Users          $7,700               $3,800                $836                $2,964


   1000 Users         $77,000              $38,000                $836               $37,164


  10,000 Users       $770,000              $380,000               $836               $379, 164
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Guidance for Migration
 Run the numbers
    Especially if you are chasing cost savings
    Are there other reasons to move- can you ‘value’ them?
 Don’t invest in migration
    Much of the fixed cost is in up-skill
    No way for enterprise to re-use these skills
    Use 3rd party with skill to minimize cost
 Consider phased approach
    E.g. Move code to be CRM Online ready during maint.
 Endeavour to maintain deployment neutrality
     Keep on-premise code online compatible
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Who is concerned about security?
Why should I trust <xxx> with critical
systems?
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




How secure is your current ‘datacentre’?




        +                        +
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




                                 or
0 People per Day                                   ~120 People per Day
US Airline Fatalities                              US Vehicle Fatalities
2010 Total = Zero                                  2010 Average
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Comments on Security and Reliability
 Qualities of Scale
    24/7/365 onsite staff
    Best engineers in the world
    More redundancy
 Consider reliability ‘per mile’
 Resist psychological foibles
    Being in control doesn’t make things safer
 Use savings to improve on-premise assets
    Save money moving to CRM Online?
    Spend some of it on a redundant network connection.
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




The Legal Minefield
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Legal Questions
 What do local laws say about data storage?
    Tax Administration Act requires us
    “to keep sufficient records in New Zeaand”
    http://tinyurl.com/ird-alert
 Does cloud hosting create a nexus to a jurisdiction?
    For tax purposes?
    Anti-trust law? Securities law?
 Which law applies & courts would rule on any dispute?
A Worked Example
MedRecruit Limited
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




About MedRecruit
 KEY DETAILS
   Founded 2006
   Started on CRM 3 + Small
   Business Server 2003
   Grow at 100+% per year
    2nd Deloitte Fast 50 in 2009
   Originally all on premise;
    now hybrid on premise +
    cloud
   Key focus now is driving
    operational efficiency
   HQ is Queenstown
    Australian office is
    Coolangatta
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Email and Core Productivity
 KEY DETAILS

   Email is Mission Critical
   Don’t want anything fancy;
   Great Outlook support is a
   must
   Moving to Office 365 was an
    obvious choice
   Moving was harder than we
    expected; plenty of gotchas
   Exploring opportunities to
    use Lync + SharePoint
   What does Skype acquisition
    mean?
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Dynamics CRM + Customer Portal
 KEY DETAILS

   CRM is Core LoB System
   Users since version 3
   Extensively customized
   Customer self service portal
   Would like to move to Cloud
       Not for cost reasons
       Reliability focus

   Hard to get there
       3 versions of customizations
       A big functionality work stream

   Will move portal first
   Prepare CRM over time
What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics




Core Financials
 KEY DETAILS

   Been on Xero since day 1
   Xero delivers all those
   promised benefits of Cloud


   Xero runs out of Ooomph as
   business becomes complex
       Integration with CRM
       Large invoice volumes
       Buyer generated invoices



   Moving to NAV; Hosted by
   Intergen
Questions
Thank you
chris.auld@intergen.co.nz
twitter.com/cauld

sam@medrecruit.com
twitter.com/medrecruit
Dynamics Day '11 - The Cloud: What it means for Dynamics

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Dynamics Day '11 - The Cloud: What it means for Dynamics

  • 1. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics? Chris J.T. Auld CTO, Executive Director – Intergen Sam Hazledine Managing Director - MedRecruit 10 August 2011
  • 2. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics What We’ll Discuss  What is ‘The Cloud’  Generally  The Microsoft Cloud Platform  Cloud Benefits  Promised  Realized  The Dynamics Cloud Offerings  Cloud Challenges  Getting there  Security, reliability, legality  Real World Example: MedRecruit
  • 3. “Cloud Computing is a model for the procurement of computing resources whereby they are purchased as a utility and consumed over the Internet.”
  • 4. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Software as a Service Platform as a Service
  • 5. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics What Does it Mean for Dynamics  Trust Microsoft as a massive cloud vendor  Sum Business and Consumer services to establish scale  Global Foundation Services (GFS) run all data centers  http://www.youtube.com/user/MSGFSTeam  Plenty of Cloud Bits to Consume  Even if you don’t consume Dynamics from the cloud  Office 365, Windows Azure etc…
  • 7. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics New Economics Reduced Management Increased Agility • Pay for what you use • No maintenance • Latest software for users • Predictable costs • Faster deployment • Internet collaboration • Shift from capital expenses • Instant upgrades • Anywhere access to operating expenses • Multilayered security • Instant self-provisioning • Economies/Qualities of framework and backup Scale
  • 8. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics What is driving investment decisions?
  • 9. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics What are we actually buying?
  • 10. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Dynamics CRM Online  1st Class Cloud Support  Underlying architecture is multi-tenanted  CRM 2011 is 2nd iteration of Cloud offering  True Software as a Service  Near 100% parity between Cloud and On-Premise  Commitment to release to Cloud first  New features will land in CRM Online immediately  Very fast setup  Up and running in 15 minutes
  • 11. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Typical Microsoft Dynamics CRM 50 user deploymentDynamics General costs On-premise cost Microsoft Savings CRM Online cost = Infrastructure , Hardware $85,000 Included OS’s & maintenance CRM Software/ SaaS Fees $78,000 $94,000 Operations (1 day / month) $45,000 $45,000 Total $208,000 $139,000 $69,000 Per user per month $115/user/month $77/user/month $38/user/month Back of the Envelope. Incl. External connector, 3 servers. Cost of capital: 12%
  • 12. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Dynamics ERP Online  Commitment to ship all 4 ERP’s as Online Offerings  NAV ‘7’ will be first – sometime in 2012  AX, GP, SL will follow with their next versions  Caveats  We don’t know exactly what it will look like yet  Don’t know how Azure COGs will affect pricing  Right Now  SPLA Hosted NAV in Intergen virtualized datacentre  App-V can deliver additional benefits
  • 13. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics What Does it Mean for Dynamics Customers  Office 365 is an easy first step for existing customers  Light up SharePoint and Lync integration quickly/cheaply  CRM Online default choice for new deployments  Cost saving are real and significant  Migration more nuanced  Windows Azure ideal for Customer Portals  Cheap (~$200/month)  Reliable  Scalable independent of Dynamics bits  ‘All in the Cloud’ possible for new businesses  Office 365 + CRM Online + Windows Azure  ERP Products still >9 months out for cloud support  Anticipate more challenges to CRM Online  Don’t delay ERP investment in anticipation  Focus on web services based integration
  • 15. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Getting there…  Migration costs are largely fixed. Similar cost to move 10 users as to move 1000 users  Say it costs $25,000 to move our CRM to Online… Cost per Month incl Cost Per Month Savings Per Month Savings per Month Number of Users Cost to Move @ $77/user @ $38/user by moving (36mnth@12.5%) 10 Users $770 $380 $836 ($456) 100 Users $7,700 $3,800 $836 $2,964 1000 Users $77,000 $38,000 $836 $37,164 10,000 Users $770,000 $380,000 $836 $379, 164
  • 16. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Guidance for Migration  Run the numbers  Especially if you are chasing cost savings  Are there other reasons to move- can you ‘value’ them?  Don’t invest in migration  Much of the fixed cost is in up-skill  No way for enterprise to re-use these skills  Use 3rd party with skill to minimize cost  Consider phased approach  E.g. Move code to be CRM Online ready during maint.  Endeavour to maintain deployment neutrality  Keep on-premise code online compatible
  • 17. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Who is concerned about security? Why should I trust <xxx> with critical systems?
  • 18. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics How secure is your current ‘datacentre’? + +
  • 19. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics or 0 People per Day ~120 People per Day US Airline Fatalities US Vehicle Fatalities 2010 Total = Zero 2010 Average
  • 20. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Comments on Security and Reliability  Qualities of Scale  24/7/365 onsite staff  Best engineers in the world  More redundancy  Consider reliability ‘per mile’  Resist psychological foibles  Being in control doesn’t make things safer  Use savings to improve on-premise assets  Save money moving to CRM Online? Spend some of it on a redundant network connection.
  • 21. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics The Legal Minefield
  • 22. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Legal Questions  What do local laws say about data storage?  Tax Administration Act requires us “to keep sufficient records in New Zeaand”  http://tinyurl.com/ird-alert  Does cloud hosting create a nexus to a jurisdiction?  For tax purposes?  Anti-trust law? Securities law?  Which law applies & courts would rule on any dispute?
  • 24. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics About MedRecruit KEY DETAILS  Founded 2006  Started on CRM 3 + Small Business Server 2003  Grow at 100+% per year 2nd Deloitte Fast 50 in 2009  Originally all on premise; now hybrid on premise + cloud  Key focus now is driving operational efficiency  HQ is Queenstown Australian office is Coolangatta
  • 25. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Email and Core Productivity KEY DETAILS  Email is Mission Critical  Don’t want anything fancy; Great Outlook support is a must  Moving to Office 365 was an obvious choice  Moving was harder than we expected; plenty of gotchas  Exploring opportunities to use Lync + SharePoint  What does Skype acquisition mean?
  • 26. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Dynamics CRM + Customer Portal KEY DETAILS  CRM is Core LoB System  Users since version 3  Extensively customized  Customer self service portal  Would like to move to Cloud  Not for cost reasons  Reliability focus  Hard to get there  3 versions of customizations  A big functionality work stream  Will move portal first  Prepare CRM over time
  • 27. What Does ‘The Cloud’ Mean for Dynamics Core Financials KEY DETAILS  Been on Xero since day 1  Xero delivers all those promised benefits of Cloud  Xero runs out of Ooomph as business becomes complex  Integration with CRM  Large invoice volumes  Buyer generated invoices  Moving to NAV; Hosted by Intergen