CRM is DOA
Ed Swiderski
CEO | Klever
Session Overview
Lines are blurring in sales and marketing technology, and
if you’re focusing on implementing a new CRM system,
you should think again. Comprehensive sales and
marketing platforms of today, such as Lead to Revenue
Management (LRM), combine functionality and eliminate
the need for independent CRM, Marketing Automation,
Email Marketing and Web Content platforms.
And LRM will save you a boatload of money!
Key Takeaways
Value (TCO/ROI) of unified approach
Business and efficiency impacts
Overall business value
Marketing Automation Overview
Manage campaigns (email, web pages, personalization, events)
Manage leads (CRM integration, sales enablement, scoring, assignments
Measure impact (web analytics, dashboards, campaign analytics)
Manage contacts (profiles, records, segmentation)
Save on creative process costs, time
89% Say Email is Still Primary Marketing Channel. Email is hugely
underestimated
But MA can be complex
CRM Overview
Contact & organization management
Activity management
Pipeline & forecasting
Document collaboration
Email campaigns (basic)
Reporting
WCM Overview
Content management/procurement
Your website and web properties
Social content
Data collection
DMFB
LRM “Building Blocks”
2011
2012
2014
2015
Landscape is now explosive galaxy
CRM’s bad rap
Think BIG: LRM
Examples
Tips
So What?
1.Landscape is Now Explosive
Galaxy
Lines blurred between traditional SaaS/Cloud platforms
Unnecessary confusion
Data silos
S/M Gaps
FOMO
Ownership issues
Sexy, but often fails to deliver
Expensive, perpetual implementations
No clear objectives
Lack of training
Not all stakeholders involved (Sales/Marketing/IT)
More data silos
Marketing misalignment
Technology is turning salespeople into
marketers!
2. CRM’s Bad Rap
63% of CRM
Initiatives Fail
- Merkle Group Inc
DMFB
Buyer is in Control
Sales & Marketing Dichotomy
Marketing-Centric
Advocates of the marketing-centric paradigm contend that the optimal approach is to expand the role
of marketing in lead acquisition and lead nurturing. According to its proponents, this approach has
two main advantages:
It fits better with how most business buyers now prefer to learn about business issues and possible
solutions.
It enables companies to use their demand generation resources more efficiently.
Sales-Centric
In contrast, the sales methodology paradigm emphasizes the role of sales reps in the demand
generation process. Advocates of this approach contend that salespeople should engage with early-
stage buyers and use disruptive insights to “shape” how they are thinking about business issues and
challenges.
http://www.business2community.com/b2b-marketing/will-technology-soon-turn-sales-reps-marketers-01213551#6ruLDvLSCCJp0W5M.99
CRM vs. MA
“In a nutshell, the only thing CRM systems do is organize your
information…They keep track of your sales, but they don’t engage your
prospects…They capture your sales process, but they don’t execute it.
…Sales CRM is strategy. Even the sales process embodied within your
CRM system is just strategy.
“Marketing Automation embeds strategy but also drives execution. And the
only way you’re going to sell something is to execute.”
-Matt Heinz, Heinz Marketing
Sales & Marketing Gaps
Mini-CRM CRM MA Landing Pages Website
Enterprise
SMB/Mid
Small
Price
3. Think Big
Lead to Revenue Management (LRM) = CRM + MA + WCM
Eliminate complexity
Significantly reduce monthly subscriptions
Reduce unnecessary time on import/export/integration
LRM is a continuum with no deliberate start/end
LRM Advantages
Sales
More/better qualified leads
Visibility into resonating content and use for intelligence for
opportunities
True continuum of customer interaction/activities.
Tracking built into web content
Marketing
Content collaboration with sales
Improved lead nurturing
Lead assignment & distribution
Comprehensive reporting/dashboards
Website
Instant content publishing/data collection
Realtime analytics
Cost Reduction
web hosting web development/hosting content management/marketing CRM marketing automation email marketing
$50 - $500 /
month
$2,000 - $10,000 /
month
$2,000 - $8,000 /
month
$200 - $5,000 /
month
$200 - $5,000 /
month
$100 - $500 /
month
sales & marketing technology subscriptions
*Based on sampling of common subscription fees.
subscriptions can easily total $4,000 - $30,000 / month
Unified Platform
Unified
Cloud DB
MA
CRM
WCM
Website Design
Outbound Content Publishing
Demand Generation
Media Publishing (A/V)
Blog Management
Inbound Marketing/Data Capture
Social Integration
Lead Qualification & Activation
Campaign Execution
Opportunity Management
Content Contribution
Lead Scoring & Management
Lead Nurturing
Contact Segmentation & List Management
Content Creation & Curation
Campaign Management
Email Marketing & Analytics
Analytics & Reporting
Content Curation
Industry Specialists
Google Analytics
API
Mobile
Responsive
Device Agnostic
OS Neutral
leads
qualification/content
collaboration
DMFB
Example
Website form submission
Lead scoring
Outbound content
Sales enablement
$100M Manufacturing Company
Increased web leads by +2000%
100% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions
$50M Logistics Company
50% Increased customer service response time
200% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions
$10M Healthcare Services Group
75% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions
200% Increased efficiency in service response
Real World Results
Tips
Just get started. Doesn’t have to be perfect out of the
gate.
Think big, start small. add sophistication over time
Think good data, not big data
“Automating” is not always the answer. Figure out what
you want to automate first (email?, alerts?)
Thanks!
Ed Swiderski
eswiderski@veryklever.com
@eswiderski

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  • 1. CRM is DOA Ed Swiderski CEO | Klever
  • 2. Session Overview Lines are blurring in sales and marketing technology, and if you’re focusing on implementing a new CRM system, you should think again. Comprehensive sales and marketing platforms of today, such as Lead to Revenue Management (LRM), combine functionality and eliminate the need for independent CRM, Marketing Automation, Email Marketing and Web Content platforms. And LRM will save you a boatload of money!
  • 3. Key Takeaways Value (TCO/ROI) of unified approach Business and efficiency impacts Overall business value
  • 4. Marketing Automation Overview Manage campaigns (email, web pages, personalization, events) Manage leads (CRM integration, sales enablement, scoring, assignments Measure impact (web analytics, dashboards, campaign analytics) Manage contacts (profiles, records, segmentation) Save on creative process costs, time 89% Say Email is Still Primary Marketing Channel. Email is hugely underestimated But MA can be complex
  • 5. CRM Overview Contact & organization management Activity management Pipeline & forecasting Document collaboration Email campaigns (basic) Reporting
  • 6. WCM Overview Content management/procurement Your website and web properties Social content Data collection
  • 10. 2012
  • 11. 2014
  • 12. 2015
  • 13. Landscape is now explosive galaxy CRM’s bad rap Think BIG: LRM Examples Tips So What?
  • 14. 1.Landscape is Now Explosive Galaxy Lines blurred between traditional SaaS/Cloud platforms Unnecessary confusion Data silos S/M Gaps FOMO Ownership issues
  • 15. Sexy, but often fails to deliver Expensive, perpetual implementations No clear objectives Lack of training Not all stakeholders involved (Sales/Marketing/IT) More data silos Marketing misalignment Technology is turning salespeople into marketers! 2. CRM’s Bad Rap 63% of CRM Initiatives Fail - Merkle Group Inc
  • 17. Buyer is in Control
  • 18. Sales & Marketing Dichotomy Marketing-Centric Advocates of the marketing-centric paradigm contend that the optimal approach is to expand the role of marketing in lead acquisition and lead nurturing. According to its proponents, this approach has two main advantages: It fits better with how most business buyers now prefer to learn about business issues and possible solutions. It enables companies to use their demand generation resources more efficiently. Sales-Centric In contrast, the sales methodology paradigm emphasizes the role of sales reps in the demand generation process. Advocates of this approach contend that salespeople should engage with early- stage buyers and use disruptive insights to “shape” how they are thinking about business issues and challenges. http://www.business2community.com/b2b-marketing/will-technology-soon-turn-sales-reps-marketers-01213551#6ruLDvLSCCJp0W5M.99
  • 19. CRM vs. MA “In a nutshell, the only thing CRM systems do is organize your information…They keep track of your sales, but they don’t engage your prospects…They capture your sales process, but they don’t execute it. …Sales CRM is strategy. Even the sales process embodied within your CRM system is just strategy. “Marketing Automation embeds strategy but also drives execution. And the only way you’re going to sell something is to execute.” -Matt Heinz, Heinz Marketing
  • 20. Sales & Marketing Gaps Mini-CRM CRM MA Landing Pages Website Enterprise SMB/Mid Small Price
  • 21. 3. Think Big Lead to Revenue Management (LRM) = CRM + MA + WCM Eliminate complexity Significantly reduce monthly subscriptions Reduce unnecessary time on import/export/integration LRM is a continuum with no deliberate start/end
  • 22. LRM Advantages Sales More/better qualified leads Visibility into resonating content and use for intelligence for opportunities True continuum of customer interaction/activities. Tracking built into web content Marketing Content collaboration with sales Improved lead nurturing Lead assignment & distribution Comprehensive reporting/dashboards Website Instant content publishing/data collection Realtime analytics
  • 23. Cost Reduction web hosting web development/hosting content management/marketing CRM marketing automation email marketing $50 - $500 / month $2,000 - $10,000 / month $2,000 - $8,000 / month $200 - $5,000 / month $200 - $5,000 / month $100 - $500 / month sales & marketing technology subscriptions *Based on sampling of common subscription fees. subscriptions can easily total $4,000 - $30,000 / month
  • 24. Unified Platform Unified Cloud DB MA CRM WCM Website Design Outbound Content Publishing Demand Generation Media Publishing (A/V) Blog Management Inbound Marketing/Data Capture Social Integration Lead Qualification & Activation Campaign Execution Opportunity Management Content Contribution Lead Scoring & Management Lead Nurturing Contact Segmentation & List Management Content Creation & Curation Campaign Management Email Marketing & Analytics Analytics & Reporting Content Curation Industry Specialists Google Analytics API Mobile Responsive Device Agnostic OS Neutral leads qualification/content collaboration
  • 26. Example Website form submission Lead scoring Outbound content Sales enablement
  • 27. $100M Manufacturing Company Increased web leads by +2000% 100% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions $50M Logistics Company 50% Increased customer service response time 200% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions $10M Healthcare Services Group 75% Reduction in-house technology/subscriptions 200% Increased efficiency in service response Real World Results
  • 28. Tips Just get started. Doesn’t have to be perfect out of the gate. Think big, start small. add sophistication over time Think good data, not big data “Automating” is not always the answer. Figure out what you want to automate first (email?, alerts?)

Editor's Notes

  • #2: I’m Ed Swiderski, with Klever Technologies based in Chicago. Disclaimer: I will try to keep agnostic and not software demo, however, I’d like to show some examples toward the end that utilize Klever) To preface, I’m not a CRM basher. in fact, my company is a CRM company. But CRM is just a small component of the big picture that I’d like to enlighten you with today. Lines are blurring in sales and marketing technology, and if you’re focusing on implementing a new CRM system (only), you should consider your options. There’s a new breed of software combine functions and reduce costs, eliminating the need for independent services. Ask levels of competency/familiarity/usage of CRM, MA, WCM Do we need to define all of these?
  • #3: I’m Ed Swiderski, with Klever Technologies based in Chicago. Disclaimer: I will try to keep agnostic and not software demo, however, I’d like to show some examples toward the end that utilize Klever) To preface, I’m not a CRM basher. in fact, my company is a CRM company. But CRM is just a small component of the big picture that I’d like to enlighten you with today. Lines are blurring in sales and marketing technology, and if you’re focusing on implementing a new CRM system (only), you should consider your options. There’s a new breed of software combine functions and reduce costs, eliminating the need for independent services. Ask levels of competency/familiarity/usage of CRM, MA, WCM Do we need to define all of these?
  • #8: Who’s seen this slide? Scott Brinker Out of 43 Categories, today I’d like to focus on a subset of about 10, that form a new category of software that we call Lead to Revenue Management (LRM - Forester term) Platforms/Services that continue to blur lines due to common elements, functionality, and features LRM is best fit for SMB/Small Enterprises, because most unnecessary complexity is removed. there are pieces of software for just about every function of sales & marketing. Easier to implement for SMBs
  • #9: Definition of LRM? Depends on who you ask, though we believe the core components with the most effective areas of integration are MA, CRM, and WCM These are the “building blocks” of marketing technology
  • #10: Let’s rewind ~100 companies ⅓ LRM ~10 CRM
  • #11: ~350 ~10 CRM MA doubled in size Interesting how CRM is umbrellaed under MA
  • #12: ~900/Tripled Notice the grouping of backbone platforms Content! Is king?
  • #13: ~1800/doubled ~30 CRM. new CRM platforms are decreasing. MA increase
  • #14: Marketing tech has a huge spectrum of players, but today we’re picking on CRM because of it’s reputation. Hopefully I can widen your perspective on the landscape
  • #15: Great example is unbounce. I love how they deliberately call out dodging IT. Need all teams involved
  • #16: - only 33% using CRM and MA think they compliment each other - google CRM failures. The early days of CRM proved the technology COULD be sensational But nobody loves reporting to the man So much potential, but not simple enough
  • #18: The buyer is now in control more than ever, and 90% of the time the decision is made before contact with sales.
  • #19: David Raab (Mkt tech blog) Two distinct camps of sales/marketing methodologies of lead acquisition My prediction is sales and marketing will eventually become one, but I believe the Marketing approach is leading.
  • #20: Also a Dichotomy in systems. MA activates strategy for execution.
  • #21: Actually from our sales deck, but wanted to give you perspective.
  • #22: One stop shop
  • #23: Just some examples
  • #25: A little nerdy, but more of a visual.
  • #26: Jsut to demonstrate the advantages of LRM, not unique to Klever
  • #27: I would like to show you a very primitive example of an LRM workflow. Using my company’s software but we don’t brand it, so hopefully it doesn’t come off as a commercial White label for companies and agencies