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QUALITY – PRODUCT
OWNER/MANAGER
COLLABORATION
Sreeram Kishore Chavali

South Bay Software Quality Engineering (SBSQE)
Meetup
4/23/2013
ABOUT ME
 Enterprise Products
 Satmetrix (SaaS Product – Customer Surveys)
   Product Management (2 years)
   QA (4 years)
 Informatica – Data Warehousing
   QA (6 years)
 Ramco Systems - ERP
   Development, Release Engineering, QA, Project
   Management (6.5 years)
WHY THIS TOPIC?
 Every team wants to be known for
   Productive
   Efficient
   Speed
   High Quality


 When interactions are not effective, it can slow
 down the team
QUICK POLL
 On a 10 point scale how effective are PM-QA
 interactions?

 What attributes are important?
   Clarity of Requirements
   Timeliness of inputs
   Willingness to answer questions
   Relay Customer Information
   Proactive communication
   Product Knowledge
   Domain expertise
LACK OF COLLABORATION

 Missing in action for a critical review
 Not enough details in spec
 No feedback on test scenarios
 No comments on bugs
 No response to emails on clarifications
 Customer feedback not known firsthand
 Missing in release planning/tracking meetings
 More…
PRODUCT MANAGER ‘ROLE’ EXPLAINED
 ‘CEO’ of product
   Value
   Investments
   Differentiation
   Everything


 ‘Janitor’
   Take care of gaps, issues
   Remove obstacles to adoption/usage


 Goals
GOAL 1: PREVENT THIS
PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE –
ERRORS IN DEFINITION ARE MULTIPLIED




                                                                   Range of Possible Error
                                                                   Range of Possible Error
                                                                   Range of Possible Error
                                                                   Range of Possible Error
                                                         True
                                                         Custome
  Definition Developme Testing Sales/MarketinImplementatir Need
  Needs
  Assessment
             nt                g Rollout   on & Support
              -Usability
  Concept
              Testing
  Testing
              -Beta Testing



            Product Launch/Re-launch is
                    Launch/Re-
            Expensive (Time/Money/Opportunity
            Cost)
GETTING READY?
 I know the needs, domain
 Let me work on ‘detailed spec’



 Wait! Are you getting inputs from everyone?
GOAL 2: DEAL WITH THIS
                  Customers
      Long Term                    New
        Fixes                   Technology




                   Embattled            Competitors
  Support
                  Prod. Mngr.




        Cool                      Engineering
       Features
                   Sales
LET ME WORK MORE HOURS
 Ask for input and you get ‘loads’
 Prioritize vs Respond to all
 I am getting better at this



 Wait!! there is more!!
GOAL 3: DON’T KEEP ENGINEERS IDLE
CAN I RELY ON ENGINEERS?
 Big features need details
 Small features are not high value.
 I will give you an idea. Can you build based on
 that?
 You guys are smart. Do you really need a
 ‘detailed’ spec?
 Build v1 and I will come back
GOAL 4: MAKE RIGHT INVESTMENTS
ISN’T THAT OBVIOUS?
 Talk to anyone: customers, support
 Why do I need to justify problems to solve?
 I don’t get it
 How? Help!!
INTERRUPTIONS
 Sales: Hey Product Manager, we just lost a deal
 to competitor. What are you doing about it?
 Support: our customers unhappy about this
 feature. Can you confirm this is fixed in next
 release?
 Pre-Sales: Can you demo this feature today to
 customer?
 Execs: Where is updated roadmap?

 Blah, blah, blah
WHERE IS TIME SPENT?


                                 Product Strategy,
               Competitive       Roadmap, Release
             Analysis, Market       Planning,
              Research etc.         Tracking,
                                    Execution



               Working with
             Sales, Marketing,     Requirements
                Customers,       design, validation
                 Support
WELCOME TO DAILY ROUTINE
                  Customers
      Long Term                    New
        Fixes                   Technology




                   Embattled            Competitors
  Support
                  Prod. Mngr.




        Cool                      Engineering
       Features
                   Sales
TIME MANAGEMENT GRID
WHO GETS PRIORITY


            Sales
          Customers      Engineering
           Support         and QA
          Executives



          Escalations
              from
            everyone
         often without
             context
TIME ‘HOGS’
 Customer visits
   Preparations, briefings before meetings to
   understand context
   Actual visit
   Follow up
 Escalations
   False Alarms
   Real Issues: Getting to root of the issue after sifting
   through ‘big unstructured data’
COMMON (VALID)RESPONSES
 I am busy
 I don’t have context to your question
 I will explain to you orally and will update spec
 later
 I already told developer (sorry missed to
 invite/copy QA)
 I have too much information to deal with (emails)
PM IS NOT AWARE OF
 Hot fixes
 Each defect filed while testing feature
 Build challenges
 Performance issues (unless customer tells me)
 Architecture issue details (I don’t get it)
 Reliability issues and corner cases
FACTORS IMPACTING PRODUCT MANAGER
EFFECTIVENESS
 PM to Engineering/QA ratio (1:10 or 1:20)
 Domain expertise/Product Experience
 Number of years with company/Familiarity with company
 products
 Product Lifecycle – New Vs Existing
 Cross functional staffing
    Product Marketing, Sales
 Customer Issues
    Support, Customer escalations
 Understanding of Technology/Architecture
 Distributed team/Team Dynamics
 Communication Gap
 Working Style differences (email, skype or phone calls)
 Context Switching
GROUP DISCUSSION
GROUP DISCUSSION
 List and Prioritize 5 critical things that get
 impacted due to lack of collaboration
 Suggest 1 or 2 ideas to help PM become effective
 for each of the item

 Share some examples
   What is working?
   What is worst case scenario


 Pick up one example to share with everyone
QUICK POLL
 On a 10 point scale how effective are PM-QA
 interactions?

 What attributes are important?
   Clarity of Requirements
   Timeliness of inputs
   Willingness to answer questions
   Relay Customer Information
   Proactive communication
   Product Knowledge
   Domain expertise
WRAP UP
PM HELPING QA
 Include Engineering, QA in customer meetings
   As passive audience
 Record and share ‘voice of the customer’
   Webex recordings
   Written notes
   Both positive and negative feedback
QA HELPING PM
 Define and validate ‘business scenarios’ on
 priority. This partnership is key to success.
 Have regular scheduled meetings and close out
 open issues in these meetings
 Provide context of bugs for review
   Feature status – bug list with severity
   Batch set of clarifications to optimize time
   Help with negative conditions of features
REFERENCES
 Prioritizing feature requests:
   http://svpma.org/eventarchives/SVPMA-02-2001-
   Prioritizing_Feature_Requests-Fritz_Mueller.ppt
 Customer Focus
   http://svpma.org/eventarchives/SVPMA-09-2003-
   The_Importance_of_Customer_Focus-
   Geoff_Huckleberry.ppt
 Benefits Realization
   http://svpma.org/wp-
   content/uploads/2011/04/Benefits-Realization-with-
   Prashanth-Naidu-Hitachi-Data-Systems.pdf

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Product Management - Quality teams collaboration

  • 1. QUALITY – PRODUCT OWNER/MANAGER COLLABORATION Sreeram Kishore Chavali South Bay Software Quality Engineering (SBSQE) Meetup 4/23/2013
  • 2. ABOUT ME Enterprise Products Satmetrix (SaaS Product – Customer Surveys) Product Management (2 years) QA (4 years) Informatica – Data Warehousing QA (6 years) Ramco Systems - ERP Development, Release Engineering, QA, Project Management (6.5 years)
  • 3. WHY THIS TOPIC? Every team wants to be known for Productive Efficient Speed High Quality When interactions are not effective, it can slow down the team
  • 4. QUICK POLL On a 10 point scale how effective are PM-QA interactions? What attributes are important? Clarity of Requirements Timeliness of inputs Willingness to answer questions Relay Customer Information Proactive communication Product Knowledge Domain expertise
  • 5. LACK OF COLLABORATION Missing in action for a critical review Not enough details in spec No feedback on test scenarios No comments on bugs No response to emails on clarifications Customer feedback not known firsthand Missing in release planning/tracking meetings More…
  • 6. PRODUCT MANAGER ‘ROLE’ EXPLAINED ‘CEO’ of product Value Investments Differentiation Everything ‘Janitor’ Take care of gaps, issues Remove obstacles to adoption/usage Goals
  • 8. PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE – ERRORS IN DEFINITION ARE MULTIPLIED Range of Possible Error Range of Possible Error Range of Possible Error Range of Possible Error True Custome Definition Developme Testing Sales/MarketinImplementatir Need Needs Assessment nt g Rollout on & Support -Usability Concept Testing Testing -Beta Testing Product Launch/Re-launch is Launch/Re- Expensive (Time/Money/Opportunity Cost)
  • 9. GETTING READY? I know the needs, domain Let me work on ‘detailed spec’ Wait! Are you getting inputs from everyone?
  • 10. GOAL 2: DEAL WITH THIS Customers Long Term New Fixes Technology Embattled Competitors Support Prod. Mngr. Cool Engineering Features Sales
  • 11. LET ME WORK MORE HOURS Ask for input and you get ‘loads’ Prioritize vs Respond to all I am getting better at this Wait!! there is more!!
  • 12. GOAL 3: DON’T KEEP ENGINEERS IDLE
  • 13. CAN I RELY ON ENGINEERS? Big features need details Small features are not high value. I will give you an idea. Can you build based on that? You guys are smart. Do you really need a ‘detailed’ spec? Build v1 and I will come back
  • 14. GOAL 4: MAKE RIGHT INVESTMENTS
  • 15. ISN’T THAT OBVIOUS? Talk to anyone: customers, support Why do I need to justify problems to solve? I don’t get it How? Help!!
  • 16. INTERRUPTIONS Sales: Hey Product Manager, we just lost a deal to competitor. What are you doing about it? Support: our customers unhappy about this feature. Can you confirm this is fixed in next release? Pre-Sales: Can you demo this feature today to customer? Execs: Where is updated roadmap? Blah, blah, blah
  • 17. WHERE IS TIME SPENT? Product Strategy, Competitive Roadmap, Release Analysis, Market Planning, Research etc. Tracking, Execution Working with Sales, Marketing, Requirements Customers, design, validation Support
  • 18. WELCOME TO DAILY ROUTINE Customers Long Term New Fixes Technology Embattled Competitors Support Prod. Mngr. Cool Engineering Features Sales
  • 20. WHO GETS PRIORITY Sales Customers Engineering Support and QA Executives Escalations from everyone often without context
  • 21. TIME ‘HOGS’ Customer visits Preparations, briefings before meetings to understand context Actual visit Follow up Escalations False Alarms Real Issues: Getting to root of the issue after sifting through ‘big unstructured data’
  • 22. COMMON (VALID)RESPONSES I am busy I don’t have context to your question I will explain to you orally and will update spec later I already told developer (sorry missed to invite/copy QA) I have too much information to deal with (emails)
  • 23. PM IS NOT AWARE OF Hot fixes Each defect filed while testing feature Build challenges Performance issues (unless customer tells me) Architecture issue details (I don’t get it) Reliability issues and corner cases
  • 24. FACTORS IMPACTING PRODUCT MANAGER EFFECTIVENESS PM to Engineering/QA ratio (1:10 or 1:20) Domain expertise/Product Experience Number of years with company/Familiarity with company products Product Lifecycle – New Vs Existing Cross functional staffing Product Marketing, Sales Customer Issues Support, Customer escalations Understanding of Technology/Architecture Distributed team/Team Dynamics Communication Gap Working Style differences (email, skype or phone calls) Context Switching
  • 26. GROUP DISCUSSION List and Prioritize 5 critical things that get impacted due to lack of collaboration Suggest 1 or 2 ideas to help PM become effective for each of the item Share some examples What is working? What is worst case scenario Pick up one example to share with everyone
  • 27. QUICK POLL On a 10 point scale how effective are PM-QA interactions? What attributes are important? Clarity of Requirements Timeliness of inputs Willingness to answer questions Relay Customer Information Proactive communication Product Knowledge Domain expertise
  • 29. PM HELPING QA Include Engineering, QA in customer meetings As passive audience Record and share ‘voice of the customer’ Webex recordings Written notes Both positive and negative feedback
  • 30. QA HELPING PM Define and validate ‘business scenarios’ on priority. This partnership is key to success. Have regular scheduled meetings and close out open issues in these meetings Provide context of bugs for review Feature status – bug list with severity Batch set of clarifications to optimize time Help with negative conditions of features
  • 31. REFERENCES Prioritizing feature requests: http://svpma.org/eventarchives/SVPMA-02-2001- Prioritizing_Feature_Requests-Fritz_Mueller.ppt Customer Focus http://svpma.org/eventarchives/SVPMA-09-2003- The_Importance_of_Customer_Focus- Geoff_Huckleberry.ppt Benefits Realization http://svpma.org/wp- content/uploads/2011/04/Benefits-Realization-with- Prashanth-Naidu-Hitachi-Data-Systems.pdf