Working towards Chartered Engineer status
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The document provides information about becoming a Chartered Engineer, including the requirements and process. It discusses that engineers must have a minimum of 8 years experience, a degree, and complete initial professional development to demonstrate competency. This involves gaining knowledge, skills, and professional attitudes and behaviors across 5 key competences that are assessed through an engineering practice report and professional interview.
Working towards Chartered Engineer status
- 1. Working towards Chartered Engineer status By Ronan Kearns B.A, B.A.I, MSc, CEng MIEI Reproduced from work done with Engineers Ireland & with thanks to Dee Kehoe & Aidan Harney, Engineers Ireland
- 2. What is competence? “…over the years, staff became unaware that the piers were resting on rocks and not pile-dr into seabed.”
- 3. COMPETENCE • Knowledge • Skills • Attitude / Behaviour
- 4. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills • Attitude / Behaviour
- 5. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills Can do • Attitude / Behaviour
- 6. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills Can do • Attitude / Behaviour Will do!
- 9. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 10. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 11. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 12. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 13. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 14. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 15. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 16. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 17. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 18. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills Can do • Attitude / Behaviour Will do!
- 19. From: The Art of Possibility by B. Zander Harvard Business Press, 2000
- 20. Programme Content - Morning •How People Learn •Introduction to Engineers Ireland • What is competence? (Knowledge, skills, attitude/behaviour) • How people build up competence • Making sense of the regulations for Chartered Engineer
- 21. Programme Content - Afternoon •The Professional Review process: - The Application •Engineering Practice Report & Competences •Essays •The Professional Review process: - The Interview •Some inside tips!
- 22. How to get the most from today • Time Keeping • Learn from others • Support others • Ask questions • Go for it!
- 23. How to get the most from today • Time Keeping • Learn from others • Support others • Ask questions • Go for it!
- 24. How to get the most from today • Time Keeping • Learn from others • Support others • Ask questions • Go for it!
- 25. How to get the most from today • Time Keeping • Learn from others • Support others • Ask questions • Go for it!
- 26. How to get the most from today • Time Keeping • Learn from others • Support others • Ask questions • Go for it!
- 27. How People Learn & Develop
- 28. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration How People Learn & Develop – The Personal Transition curve
- 29. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 30. Denial Commitment Change? What change? Resistance Exploration I know all I need to know!
- 31. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration Unconsciously incompetent
- 32. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 33. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration What impact will this have? How will it affect me? Threat / Fear / Guilt / Depression
- 34. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration Consciously incompetent
- 35. Unconsciously incompetent Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration Consciously incompetent
- 36. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 37. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 38. I can see myself in the future I’m in control Denial One quick win can lead Commitment to another Resistance Exploration
- 39. Consciously Denial competent Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 40. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 41. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 42. Denial Commitment Resistancethis Exploration I’m going to stick at now I’m getting results and feel good! What else could I change / improve?
- 43. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration Unconsciously competent
- 44. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 45. Who we are 24,500 Members 32 Regions, Divisions, Societies CPD is core part of our mission Engineers Ireland is the operating name of the Institution of Engineers of Ireland – Cumann na nInnealtoiri
- 46. How do I become a member? Membership Grade? Application Form or Online Verification of Qualifications Subscription Fee
- 49. Steps to a Professional Title 1. Become a member 2. Engage in CPD 3. Build up professional experience 4. Get reviewed by your peers 5. A globally recognised title “A Chartered Engineer has status across the globe” Norman J. Murphy, Chartered Engineer
- 50. Recognition in the UK (and vice versa) •The Institution of Civil Engineers (CEng) •The Institution of Engineering and Technology (CEng. AEng and Eng Tech) •The Institution of Mechanical Engineers (CEng) •The Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers (CEng) •The Chartered Institution of Water and Environmental Management (CEng) •The Institution of Structural Engineers (CEng, AEng)* * = plus standard exam for all
- 51. Recognition within the EU Irish citizens holding Engineers Ireland professional titles are entitled to be granted the equivalent where they exist in the EU Recognition in countries outside the EU Canada*, Australia, Hong Kong, New Zealand and South Africa. * = plus standard exam for all
- 52. Memberships links you with the engineering community Largest community in Ireland News, social & CPD events Members area & register Knowledge sharing : ETV
- 54. Memberships links you with the engineering community Largest community in Ireland News, social & CPD events Members area & register Knowledge sharing : ETV Networking opportunities Information resources / Library
- 55. Supports your professional development Continuing Professional Development Register of training providers Engineers Ireland Training Technical Report Writing Public Works Contract Project Management Microsoft Project Presentation Skills Interview Skills Eurocodes
- 56. Why become a Chartered Engineer?
- 57. Why become a Chartered Engineer? It’s our gold standard
- 58. Why become a Chartered Engineer? It’s our gold standard It denotes, internationally, a competent and professional engineer
- 59. Why become a Chartered Engineer? It’s our gold standard It denotes, internationally, a competent and professional engineer Increasing global status
- 60. Why become a Chartered Engineer? It’s our gold standard It denotes, internationally, a competent and professional engineer Increasing global status Some reserved functions
- 61. Why become a Chartered Engineer? It’s our gold standard It denotes, internationally, a competent and professional engineer Increasing global status Some reserved functions The future - Regulation
- 62. The Formation of a Chartered Engineer Minimum 8 years spent 1.Reaching an educational standard 2.Completing Initial Professional Development (IPD) = Resulting in the achievement of the 5 competences of a Chartered Engineer
- 63. Other Experience to form part of IPD 1. Full time research work leading to a Master degree and involving significant engineering work or participation in full time postgrad engineering courses may be accepted as meeting up to 1 year of IPD. 2. Full time research work leading to a PhD degree and involving significant engineering work may be accepted as 2 years of IPD. 3. If you have been lecturing on engineering subjects on a third level engineering programme leading to a diploma or degree, this period will be taken into account as part of IPD. 4. Work as an Associate Engineer prior to qualifying as a professional engineer can lead to a maximum of 1 year IPD.
- 64. The Formation of a Chartered Engineer Minimum 8 years spent Reaching an educational standard Completing Initial Professional Development Resulting in the achievement of the Competences of a Chartered Engineer
- 68. Helpful Documents • Chartered Engineer; Guidance Notes: your guide to making a successful application
- 69. Helpful Documents • Chartered Engineer; Guidance Notes: your guide to making a successful application • Chartered Engineer; Regulations for the title of Chartered Engineer
- 70. Helpful Documents • Chartered Engineer; Guidance Notes: your guide to making a successful application • Chartered Engineer; Regulations for the title of Chartered Engineer • Engineers Ireland Code of Ethics
- 71. Chartered Engineer Competences • Knowledge, Skills + Attitudes / Behaviours • Report: 3,500 – 4,000 words + a professional interview • Assessors use as their only checklist • Don’t have to be an expert in every one • Have to demonstrate that you have reached an acceptable level in the competences.
- 72. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology 2. Apply appropriate theoretical and practical methods to the analysis and solution of engineering problems 3. Provide technical, commercial and managerial leadership 4. Use effective communication and interpersonal skills 5. Make a personal commitment to abide by the appropriate code of professional conduct, recognising obligations to society, the profession and the environment
- 74. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology
- 75. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology
- 76. Chartered Engineer Competences 1.1 Maintain a sound theoretical approach in enabling the introduction of new and advancing technology and other relevant developments 1.2 Apply a creative problem solving approach 1.3 Look for ways of exploiting emerging technologies to enhance current practices and to ensure continuing fitness for purpose of engineering products and services 1.4 Promote innovation and technology transfer
- 77. Chartered Engineer Competences 1.1 Maintain a sound theoretical approach in enabling the introduction of new and advancing technology and other relevant developments 1.2 Apply a creative problem solving approach 1.3 Look for ways of exploiting emerging technologies to enhance current practices and to ensure continuing fitness for purpose of engineering products and services 1.4 Promote innovation and technology transfer
- 78. Chartered Engineer Competences 1.1 Maintain a sound theoretical approach in enabling the introduction of new and advancing technology and other relevant developments 1.2 Apply a creative problem solving approach 1.3 Look for ways of exploiting emerging technologies to enhance current practices and to ensure continuing fitness for purpose of engineering products and services 1.4 Promote innovation and technology transfer
- 79. Chartered Engineer Competences 1.1 Maintain a sound theoretical approach in enabling the introduction of new and advancing technology and other relevant developments 1.2 Apply a creative problem solving approach 1.3 Look for ways of exploiting emerging technologies to enhance current practices and to ensure continuing fitness for purpose of engineering products and services 1.4 Promote innovation and technology transfer
- 80. Chartered Engineer Competences 1.1 Maintain a sound theoretical approach in enabling the introduction of new and advancing technology and other relevant developments 1.2 Apply a creative problem solving approach 1.3 Look for ways of exploiting emerging technologies to enhance current practices and to ensure continuing fitness for purpose of engineering products and services 1.4 Promote innovation and technology transfer
- 82. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology 2. Apply appropriate theoretical and practical methods to the analysis and solution of engineering problems 3. Provide technical, commercial and managerial leadership 4. Use effective communication and interpersonal skills 5. Make a personal commitment to abide by the appropriate code of professional conduct, recognising obligations to society, the profession and the environment
- 86. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences
- 87. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form
- 88. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters
- 89. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification
- 90. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee
- 91. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details
- 92. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details Training Courses undertaken
- 93. Definition of Formal CPD “Formal CPD is planned, structured activity that contributes to the rounded, professional development of engineers/technician.” Informal CPD happens all the time for engineers
- 94. Examples of what formal CPD includes
- 95. Examples of how formal CPD can be achieved Total, blended holistic view of CPD
- 96. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details Training Courses undertaken Engineering Practice Report
- 97. Recap
- 98. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 99. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 100. Join all nine dots with four straight lines, without taking pen fro paper
- 101. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills Can do • Attitude / Behaviour Will do!
- 102. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 103. The Formation of a Chartered Engineer Minimum 8 years spent 1.Reaching an educational standard 2.Completing Initial Professional Development (IPD) = Resulting in the achievement of the 5 competences of a Chartered Engineer
- 105. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology 2. Apply appropriate theoretical and practical methods to the analysis and solution of engineering problems 3. Provide technical, commercial and managerial leadership 4. Use effective communication and interpersonal skills 5. Make a personal commitment to abide by the appropriate code of professional conduct, recognising obligations to society, the profession and the environment
- 108. Lunch
- 109. Welcome back
- 110. Programme Content - Afternoon •The Professional Review process: - The Application •Engineering Practice Report & Competences •Essays •Review of Sample Report •Some inside tips!
- 111. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details Training Courses undertaken Engineering Practice Report
- 112. Significant Engineering Work To be seen to have been in responsible charge significant engineering work you will have: Informal CPD happens all the time for engineers
- 113. Significant Engineering Work To be seen to have been in responsible charge significant engineering work you will have: I. Planned, designed, co-ordinated and executed a small project, or Informal CPD happens all the time for engineers
- 114. Significant Engineering Work To be seen to have been in responsible charge significant engineering work you will have: I. Planned, designed, co-ordinated and executed a small project, or II. Undertaken part of a larger project based on an understanding of the whole project, or Informal CPD happens all the time for engineers
- 115. Significant Engineering Work To be seen to have been in responsible charge significant engineering work you will have: I. Planned, designed, co-ordinated and executed a small project, or II. Undertaken part of a larger project based on an understanding of the whole project, or III. Undertaken novel, complex and/or multi disciplinary work. Informal CPD happens all the time for engineers
- 116. Assessors Look for a) Is it in 1st person and in prescribed format? b) All sections included? c) From date of graduation d) Two supporters verified > 50% e) Essay topics f) Grammar, syntax etc g) Glossary
- 117. Engineering Practice Report & Competences
- 118. Engineering Practice Report & Competences Break up into groups Review each competence Give examples of how your work experience relates to each competence
- 119. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details Training Courses undertaken Engineering Practice Report Topic Essays x 2
- 120. The Professional Review Assess Individuals’ Competences Application Form Supporters Qualification Verification Interview Fee Summary of Career Details Training Courses undertaken Engineering Practice Report Topic Essays x 2 Professional Interview
- 121. Helpful Tips Don’t be intimidated Form working clusters Meet with recent chartered engineer(s) Prepare Summary of Career Details & CPD Table first Identify keyword(s) in competences Use tool in Guidance Notes
- 122. Application Deadline Assessment Day Last Friday in January February Last Friday in June July Professional Interviews March/April/May/June Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan
- 123. Essays You are required to write two 500 – 600 word essays on following areas: Dispute Resolution in the Engineering Industry Engineering Education Health and Safety Information Communication Technology Professional Conduct Project Management Promoting the Engineering Profession The Environment
- 124. Killer tips for professional interview Starts with uninterrupted 10 minutes 10 mins + 50 mins 3 assessors As much about verbal skills Consider interview panel! Shine: steer to interesting topics Treat it like an interview - prepare Topics: your report and your essays Dress impeccably Read Code of Ethics
- 126. Working Towards CEng status Q&A
- 127. Working Towards CEng status Wrap up
- 128. COMPETENCE • Knowledge Know how • Skills Can do • Attitude / Behaviour Will do!
- 129. Denial Commitment Resistance Exploration
- 130. The Formation of a Chartered Engineer Minimum 8 years spent 1.Reaching an educational standard 2.Completing Initial Professional Development (IPD) = Resulting in the achievement of the 5 competences of a Chartered Engineer
- 131. Chartered Engineer Competences 1. Use a combination of general and specialist engineering knowledge and understanding to optimise the application of existing and emerging technology 2. Apply appropriate theoretical and practical methods to the analysis and solution of engineering problems 3. Provide technical, commercial and managerial leadership 4. Use effective communication and interpersonal skills 5. Make a personal commitment to abide by the appropriate code of professional conduct, recognising obligations to society, the profession and the environment
- 133. Guiding candidates to CEng status Evaluation Form
- 134. From: The Art of Possibility by B. Zander Harvard Business Press, 2000
Editor's Notes
- #4: Competence is a blend of these three aspects
- #5: The knowledge – technical or managerial or professional.Knowledge can be measured via an examination or a test or a quiz
- #6: The last one is what how we apply Knowledge and SkillsAll very well knowing itAll very well being able to do it…..
- #7: But WILL we do itEthically, consistently according to preferred norms and standardsSenator Fergal Quinn used to hire SMILERS.He knew they had knowledge and skills, he wanted behaviours.Michael O’Leary of Ryanair only hires innovators.At group interview, he gave out safari shorts and hats and asked candidates to wear them. Anyone who hesitated, got sent home. They wouldn’t fit in terms of attitude and behaviour.
- #8: Let’s do a testCan you each take a pen and paper in your hands and get ready
- #9: Can you please draw this on your page, 9 dots in the fashion you see on screen
- #10: Here’s the challenge!
- #11: You might have great knowledge and fantastic skillsBut for this to work you have to bring a certain attitude or behaviour to bear
- #12: Very often people try this????
- #13: The secret is your attitude towards the SPACE AROUND the dots
- #14: HERE’S THE SOLUTION: This is the starting point for the pen
- #15: The you draw through 2 dots at the base and out BEYOND into the space
- #16: You then draw diagonally up, again into the space BEYOND the dots
- #17: Straight down
- #18: And diagonally up4 straight lines without taking pen from paperOur attitudes define – and confine – what we perceive to be possible
- #19: So when we talk about the title of Chartered Engineer being granted to those who satisfy the 5 competences…… we’re talking about a combination of three aspectsKnowledgeSkillsAttitude / BehaviourYou have Knowledge and Skills but can you see outside the dots, do you have this aptitude or attitude?
- #20: That puzzle, by the way, is from Ben Zander’s “The Art of Possibility”.
- #48: All fees are on-line
- #49: Grades and titlesYou apply for member? What’s your qualification?Depending what level and if it is accredited, then awarded a membership GRADE based on qualificationAn accredited higher certificate – Technician, for example.An accredited ordinary engineering degree + experience, leads to Associate EngineerAn accredited HONOURS engineering degree or Masters engineering degree + experience, leads to MIEI + 5 or 6 years experience can go for the registered, professional title of Chartered Engineer
- #51: There are numerous reciprocal relationships with UK bodies….
- #52: And also further afield….
- #66: Click Services + Accredited Programmes
- #67: For a list of the countries covered under the international accords, go to:Membership+International Agreements
- #68: Here is the Washington Accord, for example, and all the countries signed up to itAnd waiting to sign up to it
- #74: What can put people off pursuing chartered engineer title is the formal language used in the competences. It is what it is but a good starting point is for you is to translate the competences into plain English.Let’s have a look at how it works….
- #82: So all of a sudden what was intimidating is manageableRemember this????
- #84: Okay – I want you to work in pairsWe have plenty of time for thisThen we’ll try role plays, helping someone see the light!!!!I want you to draft a plain English version of one Competence eachDivide them upUse example 1 as a guide……I’ll float around and help or assist
- #85: This process is the key – believe meIf you can de-mystify the whole thing, you will do it!!!!Soon we’ll look at the Professional Review Report and Interview
- #99: I have great knowledge and fantastic skillsBut I can’t figure this out
- #100: You need to see that the route is possible, despite the wording
- #101: You just need to perceive things in a different way
- #102: But WILL we do itEthically, consistently according to preferred norms and standardsSenator Fergal Quinn used to hire SMILERS.He knew they had knowledge and skills, he wanted behaviours.Michael O’Leary of Ryanair only hires innovators.At group interview, he gave out safari shorts and hats and asked candidates to wear them. Anyone who hesitated, got sent home. They wouldn’t fit in terms of attitude and behaviour.
- #107: Okay – I want you to work in pairsWe have plenty of time for thisThen we’ll try role plays, helping someone see the light!!!!I want you to draft a plain English version of one Competence eachDivide them upUse example 1 as a guide……I’ll float around and help or assist
- #108: This process is the key – believe meIf you can de-mystify the whole thing, you will do it!!!!Soon we’ll look at the Professional Review Report and Interview
- #117: See hand-outc) From date of graduation most common error!!!e) Will come back to essayse) Get two readers: One technical and one for English grammar and syntaxf) Acronyms: Rule: First time use it, spell it out, then acronym in brackets. Pop it in the glossary. Most assessors go straight to the glossary, if it’s not there, sent back
- #124: Two essays: Selection of topics – P17500-600 wordsPurpose is for you to articulate your professional opinions on important topics relevant to the professional practice of engineering. Content should not be purely descriptive but should be a clear articulation of your opinions, arguments, conclusions and analysis. Chance to show your communication skills.Must give an opinion. Express a view. Feel strongly aboutYou should choose an appropriate title for each of the two essays.It will be discussed at interview.Know about it. Have some research in mind. Watch the news. Will be SENT BACK if an opinion is not expressed! Often, can re-submit quickly.Assessors will be related perhaps to an essay title so don’t try to bluff!!!!
- #129: But WILL we do itEthically, consistently according to preferred norms and standardsSenator Fergal Quinn used to hire SMILERS.He knew they had knowledge and skills, he wanted behaviours.Michael O’Leary of Ryanair only hires innovators.At group interview, he gave out safari shorts and hats and asked candidates to wear them. Anyone who hesitated, got sent home. They wouldn’t fit in terms of attitude and behaviour.
- #135: Three tips after today:Will get materials from me in 7 days to prompt recall: including on-line lecturePractice as early as possible If stuck, just ring